The Know Show – there is so much hope in the demographics

Welcome to the Know Show. The US mid-term elections are over, and the expected ‘red wave’ did not happen - why? Is it something to do with the global demographic shift we are seeing across the world, a shift that started in Australia in early 2022 and one we’re now seeing ripple out? Is this a cause for hope?

We will discuss this very interesting topic in our longer section after we run through the major news events happening around the globe. From the economy to politics, health to climate, as well as some funny stuff in the mix to keep things light, we attempt to capture the biggest news happening in our world right now. 

This week, we are thrilled to be joined by Grant 'The Beat' Bosnick, who has just published his book ‘Tailored Approaches to Self-Leadership – A Bite-Size Approach Using Psychology and Neuroscience.” Grant is a team productivity coach, the chief executive thinker at YES, he’s an author, keynote speaker, consultant and founder of Upbeat®.

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Welcome to the no show. My name is Andrew Edwards. And my name is Joe Augustine. And speaking on behalf of Tim Wade, who is hurtling somewhere between a polyclinic and his home, we would like to welcome you to the show that tries to make life I'd say more interesting, more informed. And hopefully it gives you a little something to base your arguments on. You know, don't don't don't get into arguments when you have no idea why you feel about something, get some facts behind it, maybe then have an argument without the emotions and we hold the power better conversations, not just on the internet, but everywhere in the world. Yeah, that's a good idea. And by the way, your your microphones crackling now. Oh, yeah, I think I'm being a bit too loud on this microphone. Let me let me let me pull back a little bit. Is it sounding a bit better? Not too loud? Yeah, I did the thing where you upgrade your computer and unexpected things happen. So I did that just just the other day and a whole bunch of stuff that used to work perfectly. Of course now doesn't and, you know, I keep getting reminded by all the manufacturers that they hope that I enjoy all the upgrades that I'm enjoying. Yeah, I know that feeling. I just don't know how to fix it. Alright, so we introduce our special guests today. Well, we're waiting on Tim. Yes. So as part of the show, we like to bring in additional perspectives. So this week, we're thrilled to be joined by grant the beat boss, Nick, who's published the book tailored approaches to self leadership, a bite size approach using psychology and neuroscience. Grant is a team productivity coach, the chief executive thinker of Yes. And he is an author, keynote speaker, consultant and the founder of upbeat. He's also getting quite good at self promotion. I see. Ted grant. Well, welcome to the show. Thank you so much that Joe and Andrea, great to be here. And thank you so much for that wonderful introduction, Joe. Yeah. And the book is doing well. It just came out at the end of September. It's all across the world now and several bookstores and Amazon's I'm doing quite well with it. Kinokuniya, and Singapore has got it up on the highlight shelf. So yeah, we don't, we're quite excited. But then I'm now doing keynotes based on the book and getting amazing results from it from a senior leader. So quite excited about that. And I'm excited to be here with you on the show, too. Because I'm thrilled to have someone in the performance space is actually using neuroscience, because there's so many people who just say, this is what you need to do. Why do you do it? I don't know. I saw some guy do it. Yeah, you know, I mean, I've been a huge I mean, my backgrounds in psychology from university back a long time ago. And then neuroscience probably over the last 10 years, and very fascinated with how the brain works in terms of living our lives more effectively being more effective leaders. And as you can see drums back there, which is where the beat comes from grant that Pete Bostick and applying neuroscience of drumming to help us to raise our game in our brain and take our attention from 70% up to 95% laser focus. Well, we hope the the rhythm of the show continues just fine. Tim's gonna join us randomly when he finally gets home puts on his pants and whatever else he needs to before he gets on to the show. But in the meantime, I just want to welcome everyone for this. Neither one. We've told him, we talked to him something else in the in the in the memo. So what I welcome everyone to the show. And what we try and do on the show is first of all, cover some of the news that has been happening since the last show. It's been a very exciting week. And then we're gonna come back and at the end of this and talk about the theme of the show, which today is about the elections that went by in the US. Yeah, and the hope that we have that comes out on the results. Absolutely. There's so much hope. All right, let's kick off into the news. We'll start with a funny I haven't done that one for a while. Frances mascot for the 2024 Olympics has been likened to a clitoris in trainers. Now, the feminists are celebrating this because finally, people recognise what a clitoris looks like. But the mascot is part it's a it's called a red tree. Angular fridges and fridges is spelled p h YG s, and it's meant to represent the floppy comical hats that will will when worn by the French revolutionary so although there was a pretty funny little story, but the US midterms, you just mentioned it j so it's over the Republicans have gained control of the Senate and the deck Democrats have retained control of the House. Hopefully in the GA runoff in December. They will get that extra seat which will matter. But I just thought it was really funny today this piece of news came out. The Republicans are obviously focused on the critical issues of our time, because they announced their top priority is to probe the Biden family. Of course, hunters laptop right? It wasn't the red wave Everybody expected, and we'll speak about this more in the demographic thing section. But my concern, of course, is we're going to have a stalemate for the next couple of years. And this is at a time when we need to be really moving ahead on many, many, many of the critical issues that are facing the world. So, of course, Trump's appointees got absolutely hammered and didn't didn't get elected, which, you know, made me smile. But regardless, he's put his hat in the ring for 2024. I hope this is the end of him. I really do and read up Rupert Murdoch, who I probably dislike more than I just like Trump has decided to abandon him. So I hope the media gets a message this time not to go all in, like I really do. Cuz I just, it's so depressing seeing him on. I mean, it's depressing seeing Musk everywhere, right? Yeah. Well, I don't want to add a little bit to that, you know, the taste in your mouth. But there's also this little thing that someone reminded me about as in like, this is how it kind of began when Trump first ran, everyone thought, no, he's not the guy. Everyone was against him. And that turned out a bit differently as well. But that's the way you know, things sometimes work. But hopefully, like you said, someone has learned from their mistakes. I'm just gonna grab all of Tim's stuff here and talk about Twitter and musk. It's it's been very hard to be on Twitter and not have comments about Musk flying left and right. Twitter itself trending on Twitter, which is always fun musk, the owner to the on, on that list as well. Of course, the big story has been well how how the HR department has had to really, really go into overdrive at Twitter, where they've gone through some very interesting moves where they have fired someone and then almost immediately begged them to come back because they were important for some of the new features that Musk was trying to introduce. So just another quick one, you know, he said, If you want to stay we're going hardcore. And so today, it's been announced that 50% of the employees have said they're going to go so all those HR people getting sacked and all those other companies like metta, maybe they should be going for a job at Twitter, because it's certainly going to take the HR teams. Well, he's also you know, the guy who's brought you driverless cars and reusable rockets is also bringing you back to full workdays at the office because he's just announced that he wants everyone to spend at least 40 hours in the office in person. I wonder why you can't trust people to look after themselves in the office when you're working under someone like that. The next bit is about Iran, which is entered into a third month of protests was started with a masa meanie when she died. After being in police custody. She was alleged to have been in breach of Iran strict dress code for women basically not wearing the hijab correctly. Security have opened fire on protesters attack women without hijab, headscarf and more. And while the unrest was found my theory over the brutal enforcement of the mandatory hijab law it has grown into a broad movement against the theocracy that has ruled Iran since the 1979 Islamic revolution. Iran human rights set in an updated tool issued on Wednesday that security forces had killed at least 342 people including 43 children and 26 women in the crackdown since I mean its death. The group said at least 15,000 people have been arrested figure that the Iranian authorities deny and on Wednesday a revolutionary Court handed down three more death sentences meted out over what they call riots. Yeah, that's got a long way to go. All right. Yeah, I mean, I mean, it's kind of hard to follow news like that when when there's so many people dying and you know the the human rights violations over so they may help you. I mean, how big random stories like that make you want to have a drink, don't me? Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, I do have water here. But I did just recently see a Belvedere vodka commercial. I don't know if you've seen this yet or not. But Daniel Craig has spent 15 years as a double Oh, seven and amazing actor, indeed. Had a bit of fun with that Belvedere commercial. It was. And if you haven't seen it, do check it out. He's quite the dancer in there as well. That boy's got moves and he's got swag. You know, it's very sexy. Very cool. And you might think twice about Daniel Craig now, you know, so I mean, amazing stuff that's going on there. You know, it's sticking with entertainment because you know, that is my scene. I am a semi professional musician and music producer as well, too. And, you know, Jeff Bezos, some former and a former founder of Amazon, and a former CEO, but still the chairman of the board their founder of Amazon has finally agreed to pledge most of his $124 billion fortune, during his lifetime to give it away to to charitable causes and well to do about to do well, well, well needed establishment. So if you don't see an end, you would donate his wealth to fighting climate change and reducing inequity. He revealed his plan after donating$100 million to country music star and philanthropist Dolly Parton to use for charitable causes. And dolly of course, is delighted, very well deserved, and she herself is such an amazing woman and doing amazing work as well to herself. I love Dolly. So back to me with with a story that you may have heard or heard the rumours off anyway, apparently Krypto died a few days. Well, let's let's not let's not call it a death. But it was certainly a very bad day literally for crypto where one of the exchanges melted down from several billions of dollars to zero in one day. And it's the kind of thing that people were very, very shocked by because of the name and the brand that was in the middle of all this, which is FTX. For those of you who don't know, you may have heard a by Nance, which is basically the world's biggest centralised crypto exchange. Well, the second biggest was basically FTX. And by Nance had initially invested in it. And it was growing, it was big, you saw it on the dashboard of I think it was Lewis Hamilton as well as George Russell as they drove their Mercedes Benz is in f1, they were very, very much the most legit of all the central exchanges to the point where they had premium level investors, all the people who previously said, You know what crypto is not developed and secure and regulated enough to be something that we want to really invest serious money in. They all said yes to FTX, because FTX was all about doing it, right, having the right kinds of things in place to regulate themselves, and do all the stuff that might seem like my man's couldn't do. So it all came to a big, big halt when it turned out that most of that most possibly wasn't true that they really weren't the up and up people that they wanted to be and that it was more a aspirational, aspirational branding, in light of what they were doing in the background. So the big, the big thing that happened basically was FCX is what you call an exchange when people are supposed to be just, you know, like trading their money. It's it think of it as where, think of it as as as maybe NASDAQ, or you know, where all that trading is going on with all the different instruments. And there was this other company that they had, which was I think it's Alameda like, I remember the name of the day that the company right now. It's Alameda, that is a hedge fund that was linked to this company. And there is something very inherently wrong about that setup, which people come up came to think that it was kind of Alright, it's a bit weird, but you know, it's crypto, we're we're going to be okay with that. Imagine if NASDAQ set up a hedge fund and used NASDAQ information to trade the hedge fund. It would be able to basically play you know, against what's happening on the market because crypto is very much in the open, you know, the data is all there you know, what transactions are, you know, where the orders are. You have a hedge fund like Ellen Anita basically, trying to play, it's connected and playing the market on the inside. So that was a bit dubious. But the problem with it came to came to a head because of what LM EDA was all about. In the end, it wasn't as sophisticated a hedge fund as hedge funds usually are. And what they were basically doing is betting on what is colloquially known as shit coins, shit coins, or the Alt coins of the old coins as in like you have Aetherium, which is the granddaddy of the old coins, which is quite respectable. And then you have alt coins that you can't remember the name of because it's just one of those things that come up, right, like Doge is something else that has no maybe no reason to have any kind of value. But for some reason it all gets it all increases in value. So they were doing a lot of speculation on that. And they clocked up a lot of losses in that. And in the background. What they were doing was using FTX to prop up Alameda and all basically the house of cards came down when they couldn't keep it going. It was just not going to work out that way. All the people who were coming in to try and buy and help them out and all that as soon as they found out what was going on and had any sense of what what the what the shenanigans what shenanigans were going on. Just said sorry. We're not going to do So, in the very last minute, it looked like binance was going to buy out FTX. But when they found out what was going on, they just said, Nope. And when everybody heard that it was basically a run an FTX. And that's the way that particular cookie crumbles. Now, is this the end of crypto as we know it? Well, here's here's the flip side of us, right? We had something called the defy the summer of defy last year. And what defy is, is, is basically an idea that comes about, because we don't think that centralised exchanges can do the job as well as maybe just software that runs on certain rules as independent of what happens in a particular place. So what FTX has done is basically made the case even stronger, that defy might be the ultimate answer that we don't want to have centralised exchanges. We want to have decentralised exchanges that can somehow settle all the business of of crypto in an open and transparent way so that it can't happen again. So while we're having a bad day, a season right now as as far as crypto is down, and and some are saying hasn't gone down as far as it can go. This may be the very reason why crypto will rise in a different and better way. It is springtime that follows a very bad fire. You know, I think that's how I would I would look at it. Am I bullish on crypto? Well, in 10 years, yes. For next year, maybe not. It's for some bizarre reason I read so much about this world, and I just can't get my head around it. But welcome, Tim. Good to have you here. All right, so we'll keep going with with the news. So g 20. We've got no time to cover that today. But there's obviously a lot going on in Bali, Indonesia right now, including the fact that the big holidays and the big brands and making lots of money in the local people are not because they're restricting access. But cop 27 We're coming up this weekend will be all about negotiations 24 hours a day. So you know, they're not going to get a lot of sleep. But it's been in the headlines, of course. And now, the question being asked is called a flop. We've seen Joe Biden issue, Global Rally CRO would say more than 600 fossil fuel lobbyists attending, which is 25%. More than before, obviously, Coca Cola sponsoring it, which created a lot of outrage. We've seen Egypt suppressing voices of protest. Al Gore, if you haven't had a chance he ripped up the stage. But right now we're at the point where the first draft of the agreement is out. And apparently it's been compared to a long shopping list at the moment. So we're a long way off the answer. Green preset, what they're seeing so far is the highway to climate help. Someone's moving their microphone around, it's making some noise. And the first draft is saying that they want to continue with the goal of 1.5 degrees. Well, the only way we can continue with that is that no more fossil fuel is extracted. But they're not even mentioning fossil fuels in the agreement, because obviously, the lobbyists are doing their job. So coals mentioned, but the fossil fuel industry as a whole is not mentioned. So obviously the President or the Egyptian president is urging negotiations to speed up. But the poor countries are slamming it because basically, it's not addressing the financial issues that need to be addressed to help the poorest countries in the world. And we have to remember, and this is a message that's just not coming through in the media. If the wealthy countries can help the poor countries, they will also help themselves, because then you won't have to deal with billions of billions of climate migrants. So yeah, this weekend, we should be hearing a lot more about it. But from all I'm reading from all I'm saying another wasted year. Right. Yeah, and sorry, Grant. Go ahead. Go ahead. Tim. You heard somebody say about copperhead. I was just gonna say, we seem to be saying the same thing every year. The lobbyists silence everybody. They talk for a bit. And nothing happens. You know, doesn't feel like that. Yep. No wonder the young people are giving up hope. Right. Or they're coming together to say in voting for change. That could be the possibility. Yeah. Because whatever, whatever that model isn't working. Yeah. And then just just there's just so many businesses and industries just holding on to the old way because they don't know how to transform into the new way. I mean, even the whole hydrogen conversation that's happening. It's paid for by the fossil fuel industry, because it is part of the fossil fuel industry. But there's so many people talking about hydrogen now. hoping the solution that's being marketed to us. So we can be wasting so much time on an energy revolution that's not going to deliver what it expect. What's what's what it's promising, right? So it's yeah, anyway, great. I mean, one of the things I just read recently was an essay whose world's largest maker of reusable energy, or refined, reusable energy, they're teamed up with Coldplay and I just read today the DHL has teamed up with Coldplay as well to to help create the world's most sustainable music tour in history, which I think would be fantastic if other bands get on the bandwagon as well too. And, you know, have these sustainable world tours I mean, they the amount of energy that rock bands use on tour is incredible. And to be able to use reusable energy or you reasonable fuels in the in the Jetson in the land transport electric vehicles on local sites as well to is just a great move for Coldplay, and hopefully that other bands are gonna get behind that as well, too. And what I wanted to talk about is, I mean, as we all know that we just hit 8 billion people in the world. And this is quite a remarkable stage. I do you remember when we hit seven, I do remember when we hit less than that as well, too, in my own lifetime. And it's the media commentary and social media has been all over this here. And how can we feed this many people we talk about, you know, the largest percentage of this is coming from from Africa, whereas other countries have had a declining fertility rate. It's growing, it's still large across Africa as well, too. And if we go plant based, possibly we can feed many more people as well. Most scientists are predicting that while a massive population at 8 million, it's soon we'll start to decline, and that decline will never reverse. An article in the ABC states that we've already hit peak child. They'll never again be more children alive than there are today. With fertility rates plummeting across the globe. And I said those fertility rates are not evenly plummeting. So they are in most of the industrialised or the developed countries, they are plummeting. However, across Africa, they are still at a staggering rate. And that's where we've got the most people that probably need the food that we should get there. Homo sapiens humans, we roamed the earth for about three and 1000 people. Our population grew slowly at first estimated at about 20 to 30 million when Cleopatra died in the collapse of Egypt. The population then doubled by the Renaissance and 1500 doubled again in 1805. We hit the 2 billion mark just after the Great Depression in 1925. And it took only 35 years to get to that third billion. Since then, the population has been rising by another billion every 10 to 15 years, and the world likely to have a couple more billion mouths to feed in just a few decades, with UN's latest projections suggesting we'll get to 9.7 billion by 2050. So the number of mouths are feeding and those population growth are not evenly distributed across the globe. As I said, Africa is hitting peak records whereas other industrialised developed countries are, are actually having some negative increase and decrease in populations. Before we hand over to Tim, for that interesting news that comes out of China, I just want to add one thing, I love statistics like this, to go with the population, you know, hitting eight mil 8 billion people in the world. Apparently there's a 17% chance that the 8 billion person on earth was actually a child of Herschel Walker. Which is a funny joke, if you know what's happening in Georgia in the US right now. Oh, yeah, that's like series is something isn't it? Now he's the Republican. He's the candidate that basically is anti abortion who is basically stands with a bunch of women saying that well, he's had many children with many women and also paid for many abortions by these women and actually driven them to the location and waited for them to for the for the job to be done and then compensated them in cash. Okay, great guy. Amazing. Now, there was a Netflix series about some doctor in a fertility clinic that instead of using the donor sperm that the person had selected, he used his own for everyone who came in. So all these children in this city are heads, which means a lot of them over 40 year period have been marrying each other. And there's a problem. Oh, they're all in different families. And I don't know it's from him. Yeah, so it's, there's a series about it. I've only watched the trailer but it looked disturbing enough that I thought it might have been that guy, but Okay. Who's your Daddy? And the name of the show is actually Arkansas the origin story. Okay, I'll have to look out for that. Yeah, yeah. You'll have you talked about Iran already? Yeah, yeah. Okay, so I'll talk about China. So something unusual happened this week. There were protests in China. Well, there have been protests in China before and we all probably remember those with tanks and single people and irrelevant. But anyway, crowds residents in southern China's industrial metropolis of Guangzhou have escaped the compulsory lockdown and clashed with police as anger at more strict Coronavirus curbs, boiled over so dramatic footage shows some tearing down COVID control barriers and right teams are now being deployed in the area. Tensions had been building in the city's hi to district as it's home to many of the poor it labourers they've complained about being paid if they're unable to turn up for work, and a food shortages and skyrocketing prices while living under COVID control measures. So it's keep an eye on that one because it's there's a boiling pot there. It's it's, it's either going to be cracked down, or trigger worthy for something and more likely the former. Yeah, there's also some conspiracy theories starting to brew there's one group or one town or region where apparently that they're letting COVID run rampant so that they can see what the impact on the community is going to be so that they can work out whether or not they can release, you know, do the same thing across the rest of China. So yeah, I've just couple of things that we wind up with a couple of quick ones we haven't got time to talk about last week, in the weekend reads is soaring methane emissions raise stakes for Asia at COP 27. And this is in Asia, Nick, I'd really recommend that this is talking about how natural methane release is now occurring at an extraordinary rate. Because of global warming. We now have this warming from methane. Another article Joe, you've definitely got to read this what is the true cost of climate change? And this is in a magazine called an open mind. And it talks about how basically, the the global economists have got climate change wrong in a very, very, very big way. They basically said, we can do four degrees that won't really hurt us that much. So that's an interesting one. A guardian long read how to move a country VGS radical Fiji's radical plan to escape rising sea levels, absolutely fascinating. And the final one is sub Arctic, boreal forest vital for the planet is at risk. So these are really, really big stories that are going on out there. So I just recommend having a look. Sure. All these, by the way, are part of Andrea's weekend reads, it's absolutely one of the best places to just come and get all that stuff all at once. You know, you do so much work, you shouldn't be a news organisation herself. Trying to make sense of the world. Alright, so let's go on to the theme. And we're just gonna say hi to SHA, Allah darling. What about what about wonderful members of our community? Okay, demographics. So, the first thing I want to cover is every time I talk about demographics, people say to me, I don't know what generation I come from. Right? Okay, so you're part of the silent generation, if you're born before 1945, you're a boomer. If it's not in 46 to 1964, you're Gen X 1965 to 119 80. So I'm presuming we're all Gen X, right? Yep, still sounds pretty hip these days. We are totally we are the hippest millennials, or Gen Y 1981 to 1996. And Gen Z is 1997. And beyond, right? So for those who don't know, I've always been a bit of a demographics dork. And the reason I am a demographic Stork is because I found out that as a Gen X, I would not have more voting power than my parents until 2028. So my vote essentially wouldn't matter until I was 58 years old. And that's never that's never happened in history, right? That sort of that sort of segmentation at school. And I'd love to know if it was the same for you guys, as a Gen X. We always heard that as our generation would have to carry the financial burden of supporting an ageing Boomer generation. That that message that I remember very clearly at school, it never focused on the other very important side, which is of course, voting. And boomers have dominated the world's voting since the 60s. Boomers are impacting many, many areas of our lives and not not all in a good way. And trust me, I like boomers, but with voting. As people get older, they get more concern Nobody, even if they start off his working class. And that's something I've always been really interesting, right. So when everyone today speaks to me of the challenges of democracy, I believe that we have a challenge of demographics. And we have for a long time. So the good news is, and this is where the hope is, the boomer domination is now over. And like I said, don't get me wrong, I do not have anything against boomers. They're not bad people, they just have different priorities. So the Australian election earlier this year, and then after that, there was a new census that was released. Gen Zed, and millennials are now equal to boomers in size and in voting power. And what I found really interested about watching the Australian election was I, the liberals or conservatives in Australia, they were still focusing all of their messaging on the boomers. And I, it was really obvious to me that they've missed this demographic shift in the voting bloc, that again, maybe for us Gen X's now that they're equal on both ends, maybe it's sitting in the middle, maybe we finally do have some power because we can be deciding vote. But regardless to the young people out there, please vote. Obviously, in countries like Australia, it's compulsory, but you guys finally have the power. And this is how we've never had. So please, when you vote for me too. But looking at the US midterms, and I'll hand it over to you guys, much is being made of the US vote. And especially what happened is because of the youth, and a lot of that was going on on Tik Tok, and even Texas is basically said, they want to raise the voting age to 21. They do like that voter suppression right. Around the world, countries are saying we should we should reduce reduce the voting age? Is that the right way to reduce to 16? Yeah, and and I think that's absolutely spot on, because it's their future. So I think it's a really important milestone for humanity. 2022 is the so much is going on in 2022. That's catastrophic. But to me, the hope is the fact that the young people have got a voice now. And they and their voice matters. And if we can convince them to get out there and use their voice, especially with voting, I think we've got a chance. So I don't think it's we could have a better time for humanity then for this demographic shift to be finally happening. So over to you guys. Well, I think there's been a big, big change in how things have looked at the elections because of how people actually turn up for elections right now. Because I, you know, you're talking about how, as you grew up, you change what you are. I heard one description this week, which I thought was just perfect. We're all born Democrats. And today, Republicans. It's it's kind of our priorities to shift that way. One of the big problems has has has always been, and this is this is much more in countries where elections or voting is not compulsory, is voter turnout, in terms of, it's not just the demographic, but it's also what happens when you have an opportunity to vote. Can I get Can I just can I just quickly jump in there. Right. So voter turnout, as you've all know, Harry was talking about he doesn't understand what happened, right. So the countries that have compulsory votes, the countries that don't have compulsory compulsory votes, were all voting the same way. Because even in the countries with compulsory votes, they didn't have the numbers demographically. So to me, that argument has never hold any sway because it's, it's just a generational thing. And it's a numbers game, and older people tend to vote. But in a country like Australia, where everyone's required to vote, there was a mass registration of voters in Australia for that, not that the election just gone. But the one before where they registered to vote in the render a referendum on LGBTQ rights marry, and then the election that followed, they didn't vote. Yeah. And then of course, they get they get fined for that. But it's this election where their numbers have mattered. So so just wanted to clarify that point. Because they realised fine. 20 bucks, right. Yeah. And I completely understand the idea about the demographics and showing up at bed. There's certain things that certain shifts that happen where like, for instance, when Obama ran, what happened was the voter turnout changed, what would have been the demographic or what would have been the regular result. So yes, there is if if if we're talking about how it's totally expressing the opinion there would be some semblance in terms of a leaning towards the older audience. But there has been for the longest time, young people just saying you know, it's not no point we will make the noise but it's not not much point participating in the actual thing. More people are showing up right now. And it makes a difference so maybe prematurely as well because if you look at what happened in the US, it is Actually, because a younger audience showed up that that he was close enough to be pushed over the edge because this is this is a it's an unprecedented midterm election results only the second time in the since the 1940s. Where, you know, the representation in the house hasn't flipped course, in opposition to who the president is, it's always happened in reverse. In the US, it's happened every single time since 1945, except for two occasions, and this is one of them. And this time around, when they look at the numbers, if they were they were, they were surprised by how many young people showed up, because the big criticism has always been that, you know, they complain, they make noise, and they don't really act. And this time around, I think that the voting message came came through. The other thing I was thinking about is how, you know, we don't have I think a lot of the world actually kind of had some idea how a tsunami works. And once it didn't really sink in until a really big one happened. And then people began to change what they did. And I think what happened in terms of the US enough of a tsunami happened to them in terms of the economy and everything else to kind of wake people up just a little bit enough to go like, maybe this craziness with, with with with with conspiracies and stuff like that isn't going to solve the problem that we have. And maybe we need to just go with a bit of sanity for a while. So that's that's my little theory about what happened with the US they were woken up by a tsunami, not necessarily of a political time, but more the economy and everything else. Yeah, Roe versus Wade, all that sort of stuff. But the millennials, percentage of millennials have voted was exactly the same number as a percentage of boomers have voted. And that's the first time that's ever happened. And that didn't even include Gen Zed. So I thought that was interesting, Greg, from a Canadian perspective, I know you've been looking at it. Well, yeah, it's interesting, because I mean, I don't know if you guys know where the word Generation X comes from. Did you know where that term comes from? It was a Canadian Canadian author that coined the term Douglas Coupland. So he wrote the book called Generation X. And it was recently really because the baby boomers had a name. And our generation, which became Generation X didn't have a name. So Douglas Copan, the Vancouver author, coined the term Generation X. And one of the key points of around being Gen X was a sense of apathy that we didn't care, but it made us some of the most resilient people on the planet, because we didn't care. And I remember when I turned 18, and I was allowed to vote, I wouldn't cast an empty ballot. Because I didn't care. I didn't care who it was, whether it was this person or that person, well, you guys are the same, it doesn't matter to me. You know, that was kind of my little silent protest. One of the things that I liked having prepared for this call here, and having seen these record numbers of millennials and Gen Z coming out there as well to to vote, is they are giving me more hope that I want to go out and vote now to I think that what they are doing is and I liked that point that you brought is Gen X, we don't talk about record number Gen X coming out because they they don't. And I think that maybe if these younger people I mean, one of the reasons I think Gen X didn't vote was because, you know, the Boomers were crushing everything and we didn't want to follow in their footsteps. So we're looking at, we're gonna be Gen X, we're not gonna really care about anything, we're gonna feel apathetic. I mean, singles, the movie singles, if you've seen that, when kind of summed up with Gen X was about and I thought, Okay, that was just marks my generation right there, you know, the Seattle grunge scene, the, you know, singles, and we don't care. We all study philosophy. And we're here to just be smart. And that's it. We don't care what happens in the world. But what I like about millennials and the Gen Z, I mean, one of my clients was down in Australia, he interviewed 20 young people. He's the MD of a major global bank, and he interviewed 20 Young people down in Australia for leadership positions, the kinds of questions they're asking him, What's your stance on diversity? What's your stance on hybrid working? What's your stance on the environment? And you know, Gen X, when I was interviewing for jobs before I started my own company, I was I never asked these questions. I was like, Okay, what do I get out of this? You know, and I love the fact that the the millennials and Gen Z that they want to know what what is the company's view on social impact and, and civic, civil, civil, civic society as well, too. And these record numbers coming out to vote, and even even that the numbers are not just with young people, but in terms of even the more diverse educated population among the Hispanics and the in the people of colour in the US are even more swaying their votes towards the Democrats. And that's one of the differences I think now is we've got a much larger, diverse, educated population of the young people voting. Yep, absolutely. The New York Times always does a really good demographic breakout after elections if you want to have a look at it, the black vote so there was a really interesting piece sort of called blacks for Trump. Did you guys see that this week, and as the demographic they're becoming much more powerful. And of course, they're also in the areas where voter suppression activities are really taking place, which I just find completely disgusting. You know, if you're going to be a democracy, let people vote. And by the way, up until 2022, it didn't really matter. You know, you already had enough beams to be voting. So you didn't need to do that. But you know, the blacks for Trump. So basically, they didn't show up because they were not allowed in mera Lago. When he did he's putting his hat in the ring speech. So why why would you be for him? Yeah, I just didn't get it. Yeah, Jim. Well, I got I got I got two sort of sceptical comments. One comment is sort of an observation that all these young generations are, are inspiring and protesting and asking great questions, until they get a mortgage. And at that point, everything goes down to playing the game that they're told to play. That's a bit of a sort of a pessimistic view of how economics traps people and keeps you within a in a category, and then you're fighting. And in the US, they're going to pay off their student debt. So they're already launched into a horrendous debt from the outset. And, and while they may be doing this, at some point, once they've got a mortgage or a kid on the way, things start to change. I think, hopefully, though, that this groundswell based on numbers is going to be the interesting player. And I, Andrew, you said something before, I know you were making a point. But way where you said your vote didn't count, because the boomers did. I mean, that's not really true. You know, if if 60% of the boomers voted for something, and 40% voted for the other, and you voted with the 40%, if there was enough of the didn't counters to vote with the 40%, we can still make a difference. The other thing I wanted to mention was that this entire conversation about Baby Boomers, Gen X, Gen Y millennials is except for perhaps the millennial side, is very post World War Two allied terminology. And what I mean by that is, it's not not all countries had the same experience of baby boom, and then the next generation after them, and then the next generation after them. So we just need to be a little bit careful. I've got I've got a bunch of stats in front of me, for example, not everyone calls them the traditionalists and the baby boomers and the Gen X and Gen Y. This is something I talked about at some conference about eight years ago. India calls them different. It's what's happening contextually in that particular country. So that India was the freedom fighters, they weren't the traditionalists, then there was the free generation. And then they've adopted Gen X and Gen Y. And the thing about the adopting Gen X, Gen Y and millennials sort of those sorts of terminologies, later, is because of globalisation. And because globalisation happens and the media becomes sort of ubiquitous and everywhere, and we're all seeing the same stuff. We're all having a same emotional impact to a significant event. So these generations are basically having their mindset set based on significant events that are happening in their youth or their or their life. The baby boomers are, are sorry, the traditional think the way they do because of what was going on in their youth and the risks that they had to put up with baby boomers had come immediately after the Second World War. And so they were in this huge building phase in the Allied Victor's part, but in places like Japan, there was this sustained nothing for a while, which is why Japan's always in recession right now, because they didn't have the demographic leap, the demographic leap that everybody else had, which meant that they had an older generation far faster than everybody else. So if you want to look at what's going to happen to everybody who's got younger, more old people than they have younger people, stuff that happening in Japan would give you a signal. But wealthy countries like an aspirational countries like the US, or potentially Australia, where people want to go there, they want to go there to work, they can solve even Singapore, they can solve that, that problem by allowing immigrants to come in and in and skilled immigrants come in, they fill out the graph, if you go and have a look at the CIA World Factbook, so it's called, we just look up cia.gov and type in World Factbook. It's got pretty much census data across all these different countries. And it shows you the population demographic across Different countries in different parts of the world. And you can see the global demographic, a lot of young people, not not as many older people, but you look at a place like us where they got better health care, the older people are living a lot longer. And that's why versus somewhere in the in, in, in, you know the Congo or something. I mean, I'm saying the Congo, look at the steps, maybe it's different, or even the Philippines there's a lot more young people but but they're not surviving as much. So we got to be we got to be, I guess my point is, we've got to be bit mindful that not everybody had the same experience, for example, Japan, they've got they've got the the generation titles are like the Denso generation, they did have a baby boom, they had a little baby boom, after the Second World War, but it only went for a little while then there was this denser generation, then the Shin juneberry generation, but then from the 71 to 75, they had what they call another second baby boom. And you will remember, in the 70s, Japan was the language to learn. I mean, I grew up in Malaysia, that was the it was the language of business, it was the language of Asia, it was the language learn over in Asia, China was nothing at the time, they were still the sleeping giant. And so Japan was getting a lot of wealth coming in, after the restoration. And everyday everybody set up to increase their business and, and basically, you know, trade. So these sorts of things. And then they've got post bubble generation and a few other generations. So you can align them, you can align them. And I think more recently, everybody's the same. But I think back 40 years ago, the what we would call baby boomers around about that time, and immediately after those two generations, which would be Baby Boomers and Gen X, early gen x. But the baby boomers in particular, aren't the same everywhere. They are pretty much the same in Britain, America, Canada, and Australia. Those allied forces tight places. Because when you win a war, everybody goes, whoo hoo, you're pillaging the place that lost. You all have babies. Everybody's great. But the place that lost is a bit miserable. And, and they're struggling to survive. Yeah. And but I think you're absolutely you're absolutely correct. And there has been an alignment. So so that the years of Gen X, millennials in Asia, and Africa, the actual Ds are actually a little bit further forward than what we have just just to make up for the differences culturally. But the countries, the LIC, you're talking about, they have dominated the global agenda from a business perspective as well, for the last 4050 years. Right. And the position that we are finding ourselves in now in the world, is because of what happened in a period of time. I mean, with the conversation with regards to the the elections in the US. Absolutely. I mean that we were talking the right language with baby boomers. Gen X, though the one I just wanted to mention quickly was the Chinese titles, the Chinese letters that they've given everybody, which I would just love you to guess what the Chinese titles for like the baby boomers were just something just get me to do something to do with now. Well, I would have thought the same thing but, but they went the other way they went with so the traditionalists going back a generation, the traditionalists were, were called post 30s, post 40s. The baby boomer post 50s, post 60s, Gen X post 60s, post 70s, millennials post 80s post dated Gen Y and millennials Gen Y. And then there's this one, they got to be creative. All of a sudden they've called them little Emperor's which, which is, which is really interesting. It's this entitlement mentality. If you think what a little Emperor is, it's, you know, I mean, you know, we'd call Zoe, her royal smallness for a long time, because you would command things and we'd all you know, do her beckoning, you know, due to a will. But, but yeah, anyway, so there's, there's a whole bunch of them. Sorry, Jim. I was gonna say one of the Russian generations, that later millennials, Gen Y is called Generation, Pu. Pu. One of the things I was curious about, I mean, I'm conscious of the timeline. So I wanted to get your thoughts on this as well, too, because I know there was a record number of voters in the US for the middle like midterm elections. And as you pointed out, Andrea, there's been record numbers in Australia for young voters. So being a Canadian, I've been overseas now for 24 years. I was curious what are Canadians are doing and it seems to be an opposite trend. There seems there's fewer young people going out to vote. And World Vision Canada says that youth in Canada are the most politically vocal. They are not wielding power by voters ballots every four years, but rather engaging politically 24 are seven using social media. In fact, half of the young people between 15 and 30 signed an internet petition in the last year, almost a quarter of them expressed views on an issue on an online forum, making youth the most politically active age group online. And I read something about that the youth in Australia were also feeling a kind of a, what's the word distrust of the traditional political system and taking action more on a daily basis in terms of social media and, and civic society? So I'm curious to get your thoughts on that if this is a trend for younger people that it's going to be more about daily social interaction and daily social media and online petitions and online internet? Forums? I mean, what what is that going to say? If the they're not actually, you know, caring as much about voting, but more on a daily basis in terms of political activeness? So there's one of the things that came through in the midterms is the First Gen Z person has been elected done somewhere in Florida. And yeah, naturally, a person of colour girl. Yeah, exactly. So it's a big story. Yeah. But, but you know, the kids don't trust the institutions and the institutions are failing, you know, the medical infrastructure is failing, the legal infrastructure is failing, the governments are failing. And obviously, the media is a huge, huge part of that. But up and up until recently, it didn't matter if they voted, because it wouldn't make any difference in the outcome, because there weren't enough of them. Now that there's enough of them, we've got to be saying to them, like, not just vote, they'll join, become a politician, or, or put your people forward, you know, so we're on the cusp of a radical transformation. I think globally, of not Not, not in countries like China, of course, I don't know, if you've been watching some of the coverage that's coming from Z out of Bali. He's having some very, very interesting conversations. Apparently, Turner in Australia are friends again, but Trudeau did get did get a bit of a kick in the ass for revealing a confidential conversation between the two. But it looks like he's, he's on the world stage and trying to build friendships again, you know, he's, he's meeting with Biden, so. But I just think it's time for the youth of the world to stop feeling hopeless, and start getting active. Because it's your, it's your future now. And you're in control. And I'm here to support whatever you guys want to do. The rest of us, I think boomers should vote and Gen X should vote the way the young people ask us to vote. Because if we don't, the Republicans and the right wing, right now, are not looking in the right direction as far as the emergencies the world is facing. So we need to be looking where we, you know, whether that's Democrats labour, whatever you call them, or Green parties, which we saw a massive rise in the Green Party in Australia. So alternative sort of political groups, you know, that that's on the agenda now. So I don't know, I think, Well, I think, you know, stuff like this, right? Like, what happened to the crypto recently is the kind of thing that's gonna happen to political systems, right? We were trying to be trying to revamp the political system and saying, This doesn't work, right. I mean, I have a politician in office. He's from my party. And even if I vote for him, he's not doing what I want him to do right now. So the, the alternate universe in terms of crypto could be where everyone has digital currency that they can create their votes and express their opinions on in real time and actually have what's happened to be five basically, is to say, Okay, let's let's not have bankers involved in banking, let's just have the process there in place, there's a concept. What if politics was with our politicians as well, why what if it was a way for us to have things happen, because we can all decide easily, and in some kind of fluid and transparent way. I mean, just imagine if there was five minutes a day, and you could sit down, everyone just had quiet time. And 15 different problems that the world is facing right now is going to come up on the screen, and we all collectively go like, I think we should do that. Right? Like it. You got to watch you got to watch an episode of The Orville, I think it was before, where they all just vote on everything based on their phone, you know, and didn't trial people. So then the legal system goes down that line as well. What do you think of this? What do you think that grant? You know, I don't like it, be it guilty. You know? It's like, so, there. I, Joe, I would love to see some sort of political shakeup, but at the moment, it doesn't. We're not seeing a an ideology or system of government that seems to be as been presented to us that seems to have been better than the ability to, for the people to vote. For a candidate? Well, I mean, I'll just, I'll just speak back to that very quickly because I was listening about to the US and the trouble that we had Ohio specifically, because that's all I had information about, right. Gerrymandering, you know, just the whole idea of you have a system where you just vote representatives, but I get to decide where the where the where the lines are drawn, right. And that is something that whoever is in power tends to do to try to retain power. And in a sense with you, if you think what you're doing is right, you have an obligation to try and retain power, so you can continue to do what's right. That's the irony of it, right. But I think there's also a desire for fairness, and if there was a mechanism through which fairness could be expressed. So this is why something that is, in a crypto again, I'm speaking like one of those crypto prophets, right is but basically, if you if you, if you if you can just imagine this where if we say truly democracy accounts, and then we have a system, which is immutable, where like like a blockchain, and we can see everybody's votes, we can see what you vote, we can talk about the history, and you're not going to vote secretly as well. Because why? Why make things secret? Why not just make it all? Something that we can say, oh, there's that there's a way for us to express ourselves. And then let's be honest about what we really think and need and whatever it is. And that could all happen. If you know, the idea why why is it five minutes about time is like we want you don't want to be in a situation where you're making decisions all the time, all day. But you know what, here's 15 things we need to work out on, and it's in your area, and therefore you get to decide. And we all give our vote to you, Joe, and you vote for us. Since you're interested in this. You know what I think you really you really getting to a point. So we're we're on the cusp of a I believe, like a complete revolution of how we how our countries operate, and we have to it's either going to be destroyed, or it's going to rise, right? One way or another, it's going. But one of the things is crucial to collaboration, you know, like, we're part of it. And you know, technology, that's a potential that it offers, right? But the other side is the rise of citizens, citizens assemblies. Have you guys seen any of this stuff around? You know, like France, France had a citizens assembly and they came up with all these recommendations, and the government didn't follow all of them, or do follow some of them. And I just so there's a citizen assembly protest going on somewhere, but it's basically a group of people from representing all the different demographics come together, and they nail out the biggest issues. So I think we're on the we're on the cusp of something fairly extraordinary, whether it's positive or negative, is to be seen, but I don't know. I'm hopeful for the future. I think, you know, just just today, Lloyds Bank Group have said that they will no longer fund fund any fossil fuels. Right. So and that's a, that's a result of just stop oil. You know, so, you know, there's a lot of beatings happening in the world right now. And I think keeping our hope alive, and I think older people are also saying, we're screwed. What can we do to help? You know, so there's, there's more coming together? The elections Brazil, us, you know, one of the articles in the weekend reads it's about the next election in the UK will be a millennial election. You know, there's there's a lot of shifts happening and yeah, so hang on. Do you had some crazy times ahead one way or the other? Yeah. My sceptical sorry, my sceptical brain says Lloyds Bank was sceptical brain says, you know, give it about 10 months, and we'll find out that they've been secretly sponsoring them anyway. But you know what that is, that's a mindset based on a bunch of being let down over the last 2030 years by, by by this sort of whitewashing, greenwashing, you know, lobbying and everything else. Whereas the millennials, and and those guys haven't had 30 years of that. So they're still hugely hopeful that these sorts of things are going to change. So the grant was saying, Oh, maybe I checked out because I was a Gen Xer a Gen X. And I went into lol don't care mode, if you know people are going to do this fine. But but so I'm, I'm what's interesting is if I can acknowledge the fact that my mindset has led me to think in a particular way, can I acknowledge the fact that there is an opportunity for hope that there is an opportunity for a different way forward, that there is an opportunity that that group of people can make a difference if we allow them to? I don't think I mean, saying I think baby boomers should vote for whatever the millennials tell them do. I think that'll happen in a bazillion. If I think about my father, for example, it's not gonna happen. Just I completely agree. I mean, as a Gen extra who put he spent pretty much spend most of my life not really caring that much. I am inspired by young people caring a lot and it's making me want to go vote. I mean, if we were put this in the Net Promoter Score, I'd be a seven or an eight but I'm Looking at becoming a nine or a 10? No, I want to be that, that that, that that promoter, I mean, I'm finding it the fact that young people are asking these questions to the companies, what do you What's your stance on the climate? What's your stance on diversity and inclusion. And these this is that's helping companies to change. And it's making me want to change too. And I think this is inspiring and hope that more Gen Xers like myself who spent many years not really caring, do care more, and we do go out and vote in and then we vote in the ways that are going to be in positive for the environment, environment positive for the world as well to know what Andrea said before about how we should vote as MIT we should let the kids tell us how we should vote. I mean, it's something that happened in our household for a while because there was only one qualified voter in our entire household. Everybody else was too young or Malaysian like myself, and Adel would actually ask, you know, how should I vote based on everybody else's thoughts? And I just thought that that actually is a really good thing. And it's an idea. You know, it's a very interesting ideas and like, you know, maybe maybe at some level, they should be something where we go like, Okay, if you're going to vote, ask yourself, first of all, am I qualified to vote? You know, and qualifying the vote means I know what I'm voting about. Yeah. Yeah. And I like the fact you said, ask yourself that, rather than it be something that is put in place where if you have an IQ below this, you're not allowed to vote? I don't like that sort of mindset at all. Because I think intelligence comes in many forms, and you need all forms of intelligence represented, you know, coming growing up in Australia, where, you know, in the 70s, in the 80s, there were a lot of people doing the fake folks that you were talking about grant. And there was a massive campaign in Australia to say, no, no, no, don't waste your vote. Your vote matters. And if you talk to any Australian, they will tell you that Your vote matters. And Australians are really passionate about the last election. I was reading. It was like 96 97% of people voted. And yes, it's compulsory, the fines not that massive. But Australians really care about I mean, the the referendum on the right to marry that had a, like 70 80% vote, you know, when you didn't even have to vote, you know, so certainly, we couldn't. So I suppose it's more about, we've got to get the message out about the importance of voting. Well, even even, even for Canadians, overseas Canadians were not allowed to vote for Canadian elections until a couple of years ago. And there's a million overseas, and we've only got a population of 30 million in our country in Canada. I've been overseas for 24 years, and I wasn't allowed to vote until about two or three or four years ago, then they allowed overseas Canadians to vote in Canadian elections. And that's a million people out of you know, 30 million that can or 30 million total population. That's a million people overseas that have a voting population. That's a significant amount, I mean, allow people overseas that are citizens of countries to vote for their own country's elections. I 100%. Agree, I put it on my list of two things to say. Because, because, because, overseas, in Australia, for example, I can vote while I'm overseas, but I'm voting as a resident have a place in Australia. And if I'm not a resident, then I shouldn't be voting anymore. Something like that. So it's, that one to me doesn't make any sense. I'm still a passport holder, I get it, that I'm not paying taxes in that jurisdiction, I get it that I'm I'm not. You know, because I've got some agreement from wherever I am. I get it that that, that the politician can come and shake my hand and kiss my baby. But I, I do reject the fact that I shouldn't have a say, in my country's future. And so I think Canada has done the right thing. Partly, and it was probably politically motivated, going, I reckon these 1 million will vote for us more than they'll vote for them. Let's make this law so that they can, but it's still the right thing to do. My second point was, I would encourage anyone listening to consider being a swing of AV, which Ron showed him which means be as be or be open to being a swinging voter, which basically means you haven't bought into one party's ideology. You're willing to listen to what people have to say, and what they stand for for the next four years. So that we so we're not voting because we're told to because that's the colour of the shirt. We were. We're voting because we're thinking, and we're considering the argument and the plan that that particular group has. So you know what I mean? Yes, I know exactly what you mean, and I'm going to hold you to it the next time we sit down and watch a match between Manchester United in any As a team, I bought a membership to Manchester City once because I lost a bit calmer, but actually about finishing my book in time. And so I had to quickly become a member of Manchester United before joining Manchester City. But if I could find that the picture that I use for my membership card I've got, I've got wigs and hats and teeth and everything to disguise myself, but it's it's a good one. Anyway, Clinton is commenting from Melbourne. And I just want to say Quinton, you're far nicer about Trump. I have other wishes for him. But we won't go there. Anyway. So young people vote, we've got a whole new world. We've got a whole new world to rebuild. You know, we've got to fix what's broken, then we've got to transform what we've already got. So you guys got the power. Now you got the voice? Use it, believe it. All right, what's keeping you guys distracted? Well, every now and then I just call up big random list of TV shows. And I found one that surprised me. Right. So there are all kinds of reboots of old shows from the from the 80s and 90s. And I wonder if you remember quantum leap? Yes. Yep. So quantum leap. Nice idea. guy goes from body to body solving problems in that particular era. Great show as a premise, and now it's been rebooted. And what is significant for me about this particular reboot, is that in a show that is on us primetime, the lead character is Dr. Song and Asian Chinese. In a big sci fi, you know, universe world. And it's quite, it's quite different. I mean, it's a it's a it's a refreshing thing to see. You know, I must say, I'm pretty agnostic about these things. But I just thought as a as a as a data point it is. That is a quantum leap, isn't it? Good. All the problems of the world, in other people's bodies. Well, what I liked, you know, when you say these revitalised shows from the 90s I mean, we started watching Seinfeld and I watched Seinfeld in the 90s. And then my wife had never watched it before. And then we started watching Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee, and we just think that's hilarious. There's some nice jokes in there. So we brought up Seinfeld back up to watch one of the things I realised and watching Seinfeld on Netflix, it's the only show that I don't have to enter my security code to watch. So it means it's child friendly. You know, it's all the other ones I've watched, you know, whatever those ones are by me like Dahmer or you know, I don't know what else is in there just Breaking Bad and these other ones spiritual soul and everything else. You need to enter a code to get in there. But Seinfeld you don't need it's clean humour. It's timeless. It's 20 years old. It is timeless humour. All the timeless people and idiosyncrasy. Life is my daily life, you know? Yeah. making me thirsty. what else what else keeping you busy? What's keeping you busy? Andrea? Oh, so you haven't got you haven't got something that's keeping you busy? Oh, yeah, I got something. So I mean. Well, that's a past that by the skin of my teeth, which was good. I say that in Hebrew. Come on my friend. Yoda, Yoda, Yoda. It's toda I'd said, Yoda. See, I even got that wrong. Go to Star Wars, of course. But the. But I've been, ya know, I'm still writing assignments. I've got one doing today, which is about exegesis about interpretation of a particular psalm 22. And then then I've got a week to finish my heat my history paper. And so that goes, but what's really, what's keeping me excited, is after that, there's that month in Europe, and we get to have cold weather Christmas and catch up with my brothers who I haven't seen. One of them I haven't seen for three years plus, and their families, which I haven't seen for three years, but both of them. So yeah, so it'd be great to catch up with me that whole clan going over and so we're excited by that little bit nervous. We're going nuts that Uniqlo buying lots of fluffy things. That's a that's a fast fashion business go elsewhere. I've still got the one that I have still got the jacket that I used to go to Everest, and that was one of the days so that I think they were I think they're a little bit more a little bit more longevity now with some of their stuff. Which is nice. instal? Yeah. So this is actually Tim's last show for the year because he's going to be off and then I've just found out. Joe is going to be off for a couple of weeks. So just a week. Yeah. Good job to bring back. Yeah, you can go back and be a co host. So yeah, so I've come across his face. An absolutely fascinating show on Netflix, and it's called Ancient apocalypse. And I really, really, really want to encourage everyone to watch it. If you want to get a feel for what a global calamity looks like, this, this, this is the show that will give you a sense of all those climate predictions and those tipping points coming together and creating something truly global. Yeah, it's illustrated in this show. But so there's this guy called Graham Hancock. And he is a an investigative investigative reporter, kind of kind of set. And he loves archaeology. And basically, he's been trying to find out if the history of humankind dates back further than what archaeologists say it does, right. And the archaeologists hate him, they mock Him, they laugh at him. And it's about it's been very difficult for him to get sort of global attention. So he's done the show. And I have to give you a couple of caveats. It's incredibly corny. You know, you know, when you run a show, it's like, you know, sort of wistfully looking off into the distance sort of moments, you know, how, like every show you're watching now, there's a group of people walking in slow motion, you know, how that's being overused? Yeah, there's so there's a lot of that a lot of drama that doesn't need to be there. But it's a really, it's a really fascinating insight into a possibility of human history. That, you know, my brother was giving me some, a piece of history once about Aboriginal history. And I said, That's not right. And he goes, Well, I learned at school, and I'm like, Yeah, but you know, history always changes, right? And he goes, How can history change? And because we keep discovering new things, and different interpretations, you know, different people have different ideas, you know, anyway, so this, to me, is on so many levels, but one of the things that I love about it, is it astronomy, mythology, and archaeology, or put together and that's what the archaeologists don't like. So all the mythology, there's consistent mythology around the world about these stories. And you know, when you start to see consistency, you start to go wait a minute, did something happen? So anyway, yeah. Ancient ancient Apocalypse on Netflix. absolutely recommend it. I've got the last one to watch tonight. And, and that's what cause and the conclusion is, what causes the last calamity? What was the last calamity? Well, based on what he's found, and the evidence that he's reporting on, and sometimes it can feel a little bit tenuous, when you 16 elections right? Now an SMS not asteroid, a common crossing into Earth, right. And, you know, we've got plenty of examples of that having happened, but this one is a big one. I did a paper paper last year on the flood, and the Noah's Flood. And so when I, when I went in to look at flood myths around the world, there were flood myths in the Americas. There were flood myths with the aboriginals in Australia as well, where they were coming over, in according to this myth, it sounded like they're walking across from Africa. Which, I don't quite know how that happened. But it did it sounded like that they're working. Yeah, the ocean, the ocean levels. And that's what you you'll love this. The ocean level was so much lower because of the ice age because of course, so when I, when when the ice melt, water expands, but when when the ice melt when I'm gonna run the other way around the other side, it Yeah, so all this land was connected to each other. So there's all these archaeological sites all around the world that shows proof of an advanced society. Okay. And we think we're the most advanced society. So it's like, and he believes that these structures, these megalithic structures were warning to the world. Right? The Inuit of northern Canada and the I knew of northern Japan are very, very similar. So they must have been a they were part of the same civilization and believe, you know, when when there was ice age out there. Yeah, it was. That was the Pangea side of things when everything was Gondwanaland dish. People were roaming about possibly, but yeah, I mean, interesting. I find that sort of stuff. Fascinating. Of course, there's lots of gaps. And there's, there's quantum leaps of assumptions sometimes, but, but what I like about it is that it's a multidisciplinary approach, versus the archaeologists just going this is the only way to do it. And so having a look at that different context, different stories, and then piecing the it's like a 3d Jigsaw instead of a 2d one. Right? Yeah. The scientist in me is a little cautious hearing all this in two words come to mind right now. Dan Brown so be careful. Because a lot of archaeology is science right? So you know, they do work or they do they dig down like, you know, carbon dating. I mean, there's a lot there's a lot to it, but I just watch it. I'd love to know what you do everything I listen, I watch videos about how the world is flat. This chance, Tim, since your this is your last time on the show. And before you head out, you got all these exams about theology and all that I just want you to remember man when it comes to exams. You win some you lose some. Which some is it 2222 I should write it down win some lose some? I think I'd probably lose marks for it, though. I'll put it in a footnote. Anyway, if anyone's interested find my hot girls here. 69 Triple X dot sight his comment? Yeah, no, don't don't even quote him. Don't even give him the time of day. I thought I thought at least we've got a troll logged in. That's nice. Yeah. Lisa is not someone just randomly talking about you being in love with Joe or something like that. Which is what? Because we're talking about US politics, it's probably on one of one of the streams that we're live on. They'll be there. Hi, guys. This is YouTube. You can see it's coming through anyway. Let's wrap it up. Great. Thank you so much for coming. Appreciate it, Tim. Happy holidays, happy, amazing reunion with your family. We'll be back here for the no show and a couple of weeks without Joe or Tim, what am I going to do. But the current climate coverage is on next week. And I'm really looking forward to it. Because we're going to talk about why we need we need to raise human consciousness in order to overcome the climate emergency. So we're going to take a very spiritual concept and make it as simple and understandable as we can so it doesn't turn people off. That's the goal. So I'm looking forward to I'm really looking forward to that conversation. Yeah, you guys want to say goodbye? Goodbye. Thanks very much for listening me all your conversations be open to be May you be more open to being challenged in all your conversations. Yeah, absolutely. Well, thank you so much for having me on the show as well, too. It's been my pleasure and very insightful for me as well to and to share my insights too. And hopefully we all do go vote for them and make the better make the world a better place to be. Yeah, I like it. All right, ending the broadcast. So