Uncommon Courage

Hot tips for a successful return home

August 10, 2022 Andrea T Edwards, Shirley Taylor, Episode 71
Uncommon Courage
Hot tips for a successful return home
Show Notes Transcript

After nearly half a lifetime living away from her home country in the UK, Shirley decided it was finally time to go home. Initially it wasn’t going to be ‘home-home’ (aka Sheffield) but in the end, ‘Shirley from Sheffield’ returned to her roots, and it’s been just over a year since she left Singapore. 

Throughout this year, I’ve watched Shirley really flourish and connect with her local community. I’ve been so impressed with the joy she is experiencing following such a massive change in her life, more so, because I’ve tried to return home a couple of times and I didn’t find it easy at all. 

Since the pandemic hit, the expat community saw an instant exodus of families leaving to go home – I think many felt safer in their own countries during a time like this, which makes perfect sense. However now, two and a half years later, more families have made the decision to return home permanently too. Going through a global crisis like we all did, I believe it forces us all to really reflect on what matters in life, and many have been going through that process. 

Looking ahead for our family, we know because of climate change, that we will have to move (either North or South) to put our boys in the best position for their future. Therefore, this sort of decision is part of our future plans, but I am also very aware that whether it’s my husband (Steve) going home, or me going home, it won’t be easy for the person returning. Unless we take the chance to learn from those who go before us. 

And so, I thought it would be valuable to learn from someone who has gone home beautifully and is building a new life – a life that is making them smile every day. If you have repatriated or will be doing it at some point, have a listen and take some inspiration from Shirley from Sheffield. I have so much admiration and respect for what she’s done and how she’s thriving back home. Thanks for speaking with me Shirley. 

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Hello, my lovelies. It's Andrea Edwards. Welcome to Uncommon courage. Today, I'm very, very excited to introduce you to Shirley Taylor. She has been a friend for many, many years, and we met in Singapore, she has now moved back to Sheffield in the UK. And that's what I want to talk to her about. But surely he is a professional speaker, a best selling author. And she's also an email and business writing specialist. She's amazing at what she does. But what I really want to talk to her about today is, you know, the mindset of moving home after all these years, and she's really doing a fantastic job of it. Um, I'm someone who's gone home twice to Australia, and I really struggled with settling in. It's very difficult to do when you've been away for a long time. And I think she's done such an amazing job of it. I wanted to talk to her about it. I know a lot of people are returning home at the moment. And that's not an easy thing to do so. And here she is surely from Sheffield. And literally, you are now. Welcome. Well, I mean, could you believe it, Andrea? I never said I was coming back to Sheffield. I know. I mean, you went through this journey of wandering to different parts of the world trying to work out where you wanted to live. Right. So. So first of all, let's start off with you know, we can talk about your professional stuff. But let's talk about like, when did you originally leave Sheffield? Oh, my goodness. When I originally left Sheffield was in 1983. So I you know, I'd been a secretary for nine years. And then I knew I wanted to teach. So I went to teach trading College. Long story short, I got a job in Singapore never even thought about going abroad. So I left England in 1983 for two years in Singapore, then two years in Bahrain, two years back in Singapore than one year in Canada. During the 90s. I lived in England again with my mom, my dad had passed away. So I stayed with my mom during the 90s. And then I came I went back to Singapore in 2002. So it's 22 now so it's 20 years ago, in 2002. I moved back to Singapore and made it my home. You sort of got to the point where you knew that it was time to leave Singapore, right? Yeah, I loved Singapore, I will always speak highly of everything to do with Singapore. And it gave me a great life. And it gave me a great living as a trainer, a coach to the trainer and a teacher. But I think it was about it was probably about six years ago now where I was flying back from. I used to travel abroad a lot to do speeches and training and see friends. And I remember once I was flying back to Singapore, and when I was coming into land, I normally get a feeling I'm home. It's like washes over me. Zooming in, just cut that train, train with the planes coming down and I'm thinking I'm home. I'm home. Well, something happened on a journey about six years before I left, and it knocked me for six. I had this feeling Why are you still in Singapore? And I couldn't understand it. I couldn't understand it. But that thought kept coming to mind. Have I had enough? Do I need to go away? So as you said earlier, I try. I thought do I want to go and live in America? Can I go and live in America at my age? Do I want to go and live in Canada? I've got lots of friends in Canada and so it was tormenting me where I wanted to go. And then COVID happened? No before COVID happened. I've made my mind up surely you're 60 something years old. Go home. That's a one place you know you can do go home. But I never wanted to come back to my hometown which was Sheffield. So I mean, I've always been surely from Sheffield. Everybody knows me as surely from Sheffield. But for some reason I wasn't thinking about coming back to Sheffield. So before COVID I came to England doing a Reki of the south of England in Brighton. I went with some friends. I did this Reki of Brighton and I thought you know what, I think I could make my home around the south of England. I've got lots of friends downtown. That's what I'll do. So I was looking actively looking for somewhere to rent, then COVID put a stop to all of that. And of course two years later, I started again and I went to Brighton. Two years later, I made all my plans. I've got a cat to bring with me. So I've got a lot of plans to me. But it was only me so it's not like me and a family Andrea and a lot of people who might be listening will be in a different position. They'll be with a family or a husband or a partner. So I was on my own so I went to Brighton I booked an apartment for three months in the marina with the intention of looking around the south of England to decide where I wanted to live. And then everything changed. Everything changed because within three weeks of laying down south, my friend Caroline and her husband was celebrating their 35th wedding anniversary. And I said, there's nowhere in the world I want to be on that day. But with you in Sheffield, halfway up on the train, I cannot tell you the strangest thing happened. I'm sitting there on the train looking out the window and I got this big smile on my face. The biggest smile, and it washed over me again. That feeling you need to move home? Yeah, right, because you don't have any family left right now. That's another key in my position as well. It's a bit unusual, really. I don't have any close family except one cousin who is in Sheffield and his wife and other cousin who has died, unfortunately. And it's his daughter. She lives in some Falkland Islands. So I did. I do still have the cousin here. But I do have a couple of friends still are in the Sheffield area. So yeah, it was still a big, big, big, big move to consider. When I booked an apartment for three months in Brighton. I knew I wanted to come back to Sheffield, I had to completely change my plans. I remember the time it was very complicated, but but at the same time you were going through that resource so many people in the expat community around the world, you know, it's a small percentage of the global population. But those of us who were part of it, we saw how much change went on within our community. I remember when COVID hit, there was like an incident exodus from Phuket. Yeah, absolutely. There was an accident in Singapore as well, right massive exodus. But then there's been a lot of people who've come to Phuket. So a lot of new families have turned up, which has been great for the school environment. Yeah, and they've moved out of the Asian cities. So Singapore, Bangkok, Hong Kong, Shanghai. And the reason they've moved out is because of course, living through COVID in those cities, especially in apartments is is terribly difficult, right? Especially if you've got a young family. So it's been really interesting. But the other thing is, and so now the end of this sort of two and a half year cycle, there's more people making permanent moves back home, and I was listening to I was watching a movie, I can't remember what the movie was. But there was a point where they basically said, unless you have a passport in this country, leave now it was one of these war scenes, right? Yeah. And, and it just really struck me that, you know, as people who were foreigners living in other countries, during COVID, it was more challenging for us. It was challenging to get access to vaccines. Yeah, we were at the bottom of the list. You know, I think it was different in Singapore. I think everyone was different. And yeah, it was very difficult. You know, just, I was really blessed that I was in Singapore during the COVID. Because I think, you know, I got out of England. I was, as I said, I was doing my Reiki and I got out England got on a plane home. And I think within a week we were in lockdown. Yeah, I was very, very lucky. And felt very blessed to be in Singapore at that time. But yeah, so but there's a lot of people moving in, you know, I've gone home tried to go home twice and left both times because I just really struggled. It was just it was just so Australian, you know, being back in me, you know, I do know what you mean. Because remember, I came back in the 90s. I came back after two years in Singapore for I was in England for one year before Bahrain, and I just it was to Sheffield. It was to England. I didn't want to be there. I needed to be abroad. So there's a time for returning and I knew it was my time. So here's the thing. I had to decide when to give up that apartment in Brighton and come to Sheffield and I was sent a video a good friend of mine sent me a video Remember, I'm single and on my own just sent me this video. It was it was it started off? Do you want to make new friends and meet new people? Do you want to have fun? Do you want to feel uplifted every day? And I'm like, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. And at the end of the video, it said you need to join the UK Rock choir. And I looked it up and I've learnt all about it. And I checked out the schedule and I came up to Sheffield, I rented an apartment in a cottage in the country in Sheffield. And I went to the very first rock choir Sheffield branch. The first one after two years of lockdown. Best thing I've ever done, Andrew. Yeah. And every opportunity I've ever seen, you have to get up and sing you take it. So when I saw that I thought it was only in a group but only in a group. But I really, I really think that that is one of the things the keys for me when I came up to Sheffield. I joined it straightaway. Now I'm not gonna say you know, at first I'm like, joining something new. I don't know anybody. I don't know anybody. But the thing I do know is I know how to make friends and I know how to say hello and to introduce myself and you know, so that's what I did and I still got myself a bit of a reputation and Shirley is the one who takes pictures everywhere we go Shirley is the one who will take a recording and I love my rock choir so that was kind of like the first step into Finding new things to do to occupy myself. Yeah, because I mean, you're still working, you're still doing your work from there, right? So not gonna say I'm retired, I'm definitely not retired. And I am I think I call myself semi retired, I am working. And I again, I thank COVID for giving me the experience of doing virtual training, because I got to love virtual training and pretty good at it if I say so myself. So I'm very lucky that I do have some clients that I can still work with in Asia. I have to get up early. I had to get up at 330 the other day to start a session at 5am. But then I went back to bed at 8:30am. So there you go. Yeah. Nice. But then the other thing you've done, I've noticed is you've really embraced your neighbours as well. And yes, you're, you're the actual centre point of them getting to know each other, even though they've lived next door to each other for years. Right. It's funny, you should say that because, you know, I was lucky, you know, I did stay in cottages, pet temporary for a while, and then I was looking for somewhere to rent. And it was very hard for me to find somewhere that I wanted to rent that I felt comfortable in that would accept cats for some reason. And I think it's an allergy thing. A lot of owners won't accept animals, if you're if you're renting, however, I saw this place, and I thought, I'm just gonna hope for the best. And I went along, clicked really well found this beautiful place in a beautiful area, 10 minutes from the countryside. And it is a very nice little area where it's got 15 houses in this little area. And of course, I made it my mission to go and say hello to people and everybody that's coming pass out. Hi, I'm Shirley. And people would say hello to me. And I moved in in October, late October. And I was talking to one of the ladies and I said Has anybody ever had a gathering of all the people from North 15 houses and both of them said, we thought about doing that when I've when we first moved in but time flow and we never did it. And then the another lady said exactly the same. We've been here five years and I still don't know all my neighbours. So I said I'm having a gathering at Christmas. So I put out a post I did myself a poster and put it through all the doors. And then I got people to reply by whatsapp and I ended up with a party with 30 people. All but two houses could attend because they had gone away or they've got family with them. So I had an amazing pre Christmas party with all my neighbours. And that really kind of solidified a few friendships. And then yeah, I really enjoy my neighbours. They're a lovely, lovely bunch of people. And then when it came to the Jubilee, two of us, three of us got together to three different houses, all girls and we had we had meetings at my house every other Thursday with Prosecco and nibbles, planning, the Jubilee, the Jubilee party that we were going to have in this area, we had a bog organising it got some money from everybody, every household and everybody participated. And we had a bomb. It was great. That's nice. And I think that's one of the qualities of being an expat is, yes. When you live in other places, you're always open to new friendships. Right. And we, and that's one of the things I struggled with one of our trips back to Australia. It's just nobody talked to us, you know, and the doors were closed, you know, and, and when Steve and I are kind of like, Oh, hi, hi. You know, they're just people just aren't interested in new friendships because? Yeah, so it's, what you've achieved is actually quite special, even though you probably don't even know it. I've been back now, as we're talking, it's July 2020. It's June 2022. I've been injured on July 16. I will have been back a year and it's unbelievable to think that I've been here that year. It's, it's flown so quickly, and when I look back at whatever, what I've done and where I am now and how happy I am Andrea, I you know, I think I'm happier now than I've been in donkey's years and I'm very blessed to have found this neighbourhood where I'm living but it's not just that it's also been active and proactive and finding new things to do and new friends. Yeah, nice man. Your your beaming smile comes through on Facebook and I feel I feel the pleasure that your your you've got from these new life in our Andrea. I was talking to a friend new Singapore recently you will know this person and she said to me, okay, now who are you and what the hell have you done? Yeah, yeah. Like this in Singapore, I would not go and I would have not gone to play mahjong. I would have not have gone to badminton classes. Can you imagine me playing badminton? No. I can see you on stage singing. But you know what I want to tell you about this group that I've never heard of. And again, if anyone from England is listening to this, it might be interest actually, this group is all over the world. So what am I talking about? It's called U three A. Now when I say the full name, University of the Third Age Don't get the wrong impression like I did. It's not for high powered professors are anything the word university might put people off. It's an organisation to provide courses, classes, groups, and fun for people who are retired and semi retired of any age. So yeah, it's like so anyway, I never heard about it. So again, one of the first things I did after joining rock choir was go to join the youth reais online. And then I went to a youth create new members meeting in Sheffield. And again, if it bit nervous, join in and doing things for new new things. But at that meeting, I met a couple of the people on the executive and I was chatting to them, and they were chatting to me and we've now made friends, you know. And so I found out more about the use free a and I think it's an amazing cause to help people because you know, so many people will retire and then like sit at home and watch TV. And I just knew as returning from abroad after all this time. If I sit at home and don't go out my house, people are not going to come and knock on my door. I've got to make an effort. So one day I was driving in and one of my neighbours who have not seen regularly but he saw me and he stopped me and he said Surely you're a member you three a aren't you? And I said yeah, I am. I've not joined any other groups yet, but I am a member and I'm, you know, thinking about it. And he said, I'm just setting up a badminton group at Abbeydale badminton club, and I started to smile because I knew what was gonna happen. And I said, Dave, I've not played badminton since I was 10 year old at school for about two weeks. But then he said, what I said What day is it? It's it's Friday, it starts on Friday, I said, I've got to get a racket tomorrow, I'll be there. This coaching group. So I, again, surely from Sheffield is now playing badminton. I've had 12 weeks of coaching. And I've made some great friends there. And we're now having coffee, and we're going walking together, some of us so I made an effort to join one thing, and it's creating new friendships in other ways. Yeah, nice. I really admire it. And like you said, you know, you went into those new situations and you're feeling nervous, but you did it anyway. Because, you know, you've got to you've got to be uncomfortable sometimes if you want to move forward, right? And you've got to feel uncomfortable sometimes. And you've also got to just grab the opportunity. You know, I was out for a walk in my local park here in Sheffield with one of the three, eight previous chair, and we were just walking around, and we went to the coffee shop at the park and she says Oh, these two, these two are my friends. They're from us, right? So we all sat down together chit chat, and this lady said, Well, I'm the coordinator of a margin group. And as you know, I've lived in Asia for 20 years and I've never even been interested in playing mahjong. But I've seen lots of people, you know, on the streets play mahjong. So again, she says she's the leader of this, but I shall grow and I started to laugh. And I said, when does when do you meet? She says Tuesday night, seven o'clock. Robinhood pub. I said, I'll be there. Darling. I can now play Marsha. That's my chronic. That's incredible. Yeah. And I've also obviously been lots of photos of you out walking, it looks absolutely stunningly beautiful where you are anywhere in the world, like the Peak District and Derbyshire. And I tell you and you know, Andrea came back in October. So it was approaching winter. So I had to go through my first winter in donkey's years. But you know what, nothing stopped me getting out there every morning and going for a walk. It could be raining, it would be snowing and I went out every single day and went for a walk. And I think that helped me a lot. Huh? Yeah. All right. So what do you miss about the expert life? Or is it not been long enough to miss it yet? You know, everybody asked me that question that the welder normally said you miss Singapore and I'm sorry to say the answer is no, I miss some people. It's it's the people and it's the connections but then with Zoom and everything you know I'm still in touch with with with everybody as well. And Facebook Of course I don't want to say I'm missing it. I am not. I don't feel a bit guilty now saying that, but I think it's just because I'm the I've got I'm embracing my life here and that's what I'm about to do. And I'm really nervous that my bubble is gonna burst Andrea to be quite honest. No, that's not I think you've I think you're fine. It's all about your attitude. I don't mind telling you I've had to be on dates as well, and that's something I would never have done before that, you know, the other shirlow, but I felt, you know, I've got to I got to put myself out there, I had to blind dates. All right, so they didn't work out. But you know, I'm still putting the put in, you know, I'm still open to office. I look forward to I look forward to meeting him one day, I know he's gonna scanning gentleman. Okay, so So let's wrap it up. So like, I've got a whole bunch of friends who've just moved us some really great friends have just moved back to New Zealand after many, many, many years away. And, and I said to them, you know, if you ever need room, you just need to come back and get a dose of Phuket live for a while just to, you know, keep your spirits up. Because going home is hard. You know, and at different ages and different stages of life. Of course, it means different things. And, and it sounds like you were you were ready, and you'd spent like good five years in your mind getting prepared. For those people out there who are either about to do it, have just done it, or there may be a year in or two years in and they still haven't found their happy place. What's some of your top three advice? What would you what would you recommend? Well, one thing I want to give a bit of a warning to say, you know, don't expect your friendships that were there before to be the same as they were 20 years ago, everybody's got their own life, even though you might have kept in touch while you've been abroad, they've got their own life, and they don't really want to drop everything for you, you know, still keep in touch. But just be aware that your friendships might not be the same as they were, fortunately, mine have been especially with my cousin, which is even better than ever, and my good friends here, but I think that's something that I would be cautious of. Number two, I would say you got to be proactive. Like I said, You can't expect people to come knocking on your door, you've got to make that effort. So I think being proactive with old friendships, number one, and being proactive, for looking for new friendships, as well as new ways you can make new friends and you know what being friendly, one of our radio is, on a Sunday morning always makes me smile at the end of his show, Michael Ball, the singer, he'll always say, take care, be happy and be kind. And I just think you know, we can all do that can't wait to be kind when you're having conversations with people put a smile on your face. So you know, definitely be pro proactive, and making new friends and just be nice and kind and and positive if you like and something else I want to share is creating a routine. I know for me, I'd spent several weeks when I moved into this rental house receiving all my stuff from Singapore that I've shipped and also buy in loves the new stuff. I remember the day the last piece of furniture arrived. And I sat there and just sat were thinking, Okay, what do I do now? I kind of got everything in place. What do I know that do now? So I look back and I think how are we going to get through that because I felt a dip coming on, you know, because I had this big project is setting up my home and I felt this dip coming on. So what I did was I realised I created a routine. I've got Monday, Pilates Tuesday, I've got a walk walking group Wednesday, nothing that was clear Thursday, it was rock choir Friday was badminton. So I think having a routine set in that routine really, really helped me because it gave me something to look forward to. And I'll tell you one, one final thing I want to say and I'm bringing my mom in here. I remember my mom when when she was in a nursing home and her health was going downhill. And she was in a lot of pain. And she knew that was her visitors were expected. And she said, and I said Mom, do you want me to ring them up and tell them not to come? I know you're not feeling well. She says nope. Note that I want them to come pass my lipstick. So she put on a bit of powder put on a lipstick. And this lady when when she came home, her friends came and this lady said to her Eileen, how do you keep so jolly and smiling when you're going through so much pain and discomfort? And she said well, nobody would want to see me if I was miserable. And I'll never forget that. So you'll often see me with a smile on my face. And it's because number one I feel better when I'm smiling and number two other people want to get to know you when you're smiling. Yeah, the smiles important, aren't they? Absolutely. And the eye contact and and just being caring about other people finding out about them and not talking about yourself. Be ready people are not really interested in what my life was like in Singapore. So I want to know what their lives like and talk to them about my new life now you know, so it's a big culture shock so prepare for that as well. It is like a reverse culture shock. Yeah, it's the comment that you just made. Read about people aren't really interested in your life before that that's something I always had. It's too it's, it's like you had to just go there. You almost had to sit in company and be quite silent about what you've done, you know and what your life. Yeah. And you know, other people have told me that other people that have moved by and don't expect people to be interested in what you were doing in Singapore. They don't give a you know what? Yeah, Andrea, just hold on one minute, we can put a pause here for one minute somebody's just not put my rang my doorbell. Let me just look out the window. I want to see you. In 10 minutes. I'm just some phone call. All right down, and I'd say in 10 minutes. So they, they go an example of friendships formed. friendships. It's little Lola, she's 11 years old today, and she's knocking on my door with a bowl of strawberries. Get that knocked on my door with a bowl of strawberries and I've got a card and a little present for that I was gonna go and teach her after this call. Oh, that's so cute. That's sweet. Anyway, so Well, thank you, Shirley, you've got to go and spend time with Lola go and spend time with her. It's so lovely to see you happy. And it gives me a lot of a lot of confidence. You know, at some point, we're gonna have to make different decisions, you know, as a family and you know, the boys Jax has got four more years and he's out of school. Can you believe that? So you know, what's what's next for us as a family. And just watching the way you've done it. It's it's just given me it's given me a lot of peace that in that time, because because I have struggled in the past in trying to reintegrate into into society. So that because like you say, You're when you leave 2728 years now out of Australia, I'm still part of people's lives, but not part of their day to day lives. Exactly. And over time, people don't you just not anymore, and having the wrong expectations on those old friendships. It's only going to hurt, right? It is. And it's something that I you know, I discovered that in the 80s when I've been here for a couple of years. And I came back so I discovered that then so yeah, don't have any into too many, you know, curb your expectations and just going without, with an open heart and a smile on your face. Be proactive and positive. I think that's the thing. I've got to try to stay that way because I you know, anything could happen. I've been I've been been here a year and I'm thinking it's my bubble gonna burst. And I'm determined it won't, darling. I'm determined it. Good. Well, I'm hoping we're gonna drop by and see you when we're there in a few weeks. So I'd love that. I'd love to see you, darling. Let's try and make some make it happen. Yeah, that'd be good. That'd be great. All right, my darling. So happy to see you and speak to and thanks for sharing and to anyone out there who's moving. Listen to Shirley. She's doing it beautifully. And in search. You'll find me on Facebook. Shirley from Sheffield. We do need to set up that Facebook page. All right. Oh, gosh. Okay, bye bye.