The Know Show – theme, delivering delight during challenging times

Welcome to The Know Show. We are looking forward to welcoming Avi Liran, who is the Chief Delighting Officer at Delivering Delight. As we did last week, we will be spending a significant amount of time discussing the news from the Ukraine, and there has also been major environment news this week too, and in both cases, Avi has tremendous value to add. That’s why we invited him. 

When we move into our theme - delivering delight during challenging times - Avi will talk about building positive relationships to deliver delight. We have all been challenged in the last couple of years and it doesn’t look like that will be coming to an end anytime soon. So how do we manage ourselves? If we are a leader, how do we manage the higher expectations of employees, who want to work in a more delightful culture that cares for their well-being and success? How do we make the people who work for us, or those who are part of our personal lives, feel cared for, appreciated and supported? How can we treat people in our lives with more kindness, and ensure they have more joy and fun at work and in life?  

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Oh yes, if I logged in, Hi. Welcome to the no show. My name is Andrea Edwards. My name is Tim Wade, welcome to the show, Joe Gustin, will be joining us a little bit later. Here on the no show, it's your opportunity to get into it get in the know of the things that have been happening in our world this week, as Andrew goes through key headlines and articles that are really from various sources that really paint a an informed picture. So this is about informing us. And then what we do is we discuss opinions. And we talk about a theme. What's the theme today, delivering delight during challenging times, which I think is a very appropriate theme for the challenges we're facing right now. It absolutely is. And we got a special guest who is a chief delighting officer, his name is Avi Liron. We'll welcome him to the no show. Now. Welcome, Avi. Avi is based here in Singapore is a professional speaker works with organizations across the globe with regards to helping their their people and their leaders and their teams get a perspective of what it is to delight and how to do that. And he does that in a unique and amazing way. He's an extraordinary character. Welcome to the show. Thank you very much. And I saw how you're the lighting because I was in b1, Jiwan, yesterday, and I saw that you have more than 3 million impacts done, and I'm very jealous, trying to follow your footsteps. So you are a chief commanding officer. Thank you very much. You've planted enough trees to save the Amazon I believe. You've done that, too. But thank you. In fact, we're old world playing in the B one G one world Andrew is in it as well. And it's it's proud of our arsenal of impact. I think it's our it's part of it. It's part of our outreach of care to the world and doing what we can do. If we can't I think that's I think it's, it's about, it's about being active. And I think that's what the photos about too. And I need to do more there. I think that you do this easier done than said nice. Yep. Nice. So, for those of you who are just tuning into the first time, we will talk a little bit about the theme, and we will go through these headlines. And should we start with some of those headlines? I don't know, I think we should give me a chance to talk a little bit more about the work that he does. So yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he's does so many things. And we both admire his work, and he's spirit. But he's also got a one of the reasons I wanted him to join the no show. He's also got a really unique insight. Israeli born, and he has a unique insight into the politics of the time that might not might be different to what we think he's been exposed to different information. So every just give us a bit bit more about you. have asked me, well, maybe the things that I could share a little bit about me is when I was 12, my father passed away just next to me. And that wrote, For me three realizations very young age number one, my mum was a little bit whining for the small apartment that we had. And for the rest of her life, she said, I was actually happy, and I didn't know it. So many of the times we have so much, and we just trying to do the pursuit of happiness, which is a paradox. It's an oxymoron. without appreciating the second thing that I learned, you know, at the funeral, there were hundreds of people. And later on every year, it was just my mum, my sister and I. And that really made me realize that not everybody is caring about what you do. Everybody's busy. So stop thinking that you are the center of the world. And if you want to dance in the rain, just don't sing, you're in the rain, nobody's paying attention. Forget about the criticism, as long as you don't hurt any other person. Just do whatever you like, without thinking that you have a center. And the third gave me perspective. When kids come and say, Oh, I failed in math, what I'm going to do I say, Is your father alive? So with this three realization is appreciate. Do what you want. Don't let the world stop you as long and try to do good on doing that. And the third is take perspective. Don't have all this. Storms and cup of tea. Do something good with your day? Maybe that's a good introduction. That's a great introduction. Absolutely. I got to say that everybody in the world is that you think I can go officer and it's a mindset to to move from the fast system that where we are frustrated and angry and to make a conscious awareness to move into the light system, but not everybody does it all the time, I'm not the same, I made mistakes I hurt. And I regret. Because at the end of the day, everybody's also working progress. So nobody can be delighting all the time. And later on, if you asked me, I'll tell you how to really enjoy that. How do you find delight? funny that you ask a lot of people define it with exceeding expectations and surprise. But for me, it's the habit of making conscious choice to contribute, and everything else becomes a result. Because when you do that, when you have the intention, and the consistency of adding value to other people, the few things that happen to you, the first thing, you earn a lot of trust, you gain a lot of influence, not because you want to be influential, because that comes to you because people trust you, you become happier. And funny enough, you get to feel sense of belonging. This is why every time that you volunteer for an association, immediately feel a sense of belonging, because you're doing something people notice you, you become included. The contribution is the easiest way. And the most profitable way I say, if you want to work for yourself interest, which is different than being selfish, just contribute to you're going to have more friends, and people that deliver the light, there are three things that happen to them. The first thing, they make everybody around them much better. Everything that they send over and they give to others come to them often. Many times more, of course, there's going to be some people that have been abused. We're going to talk about that later if you have the time. And the third thing, you are much happier, you have so many more friends. And this is why when you do something good consistently from the bottom of your heart, this is why I will do anything for your team. Andrea, Joe, because you are great contributors that we as a company to the shelter. Sure. Tell me why? Well, we're certainly gonna have time to learn more about it. And I think it'll be very timely to talk about that after we talk about everything that's going on in the world this way. Yeah, people might be needing the injection. Alright, so we'll get into the news that struck a chord this week. And I always want to start with a really great piece of news. So the 40 over 40, the world's most inspiring women list was released this week. And our friend Susanna hasn't Hill was on the list. And yeah, exactly. It's an amazing achievement. And I'm just, I'm so thrilled for her. I'm so proud for her. I just, you know, my response on LinkedIn was like, wow, it's like amazing. But Susanna is just a person who's she's never given up. Her whole focus is I'm here for the future of our children. And yeah, I'm just really delighted for I think it's I think it's incredible. And yeah, brilliant. Hats off. That's fantastic. Who is it? Yeah, I'm looking at it now that some of the, I mean, she's, she's there with people like the prime minister of Estonia. It's amazing. And that is incredible, isn't it? I didn't know she was on the list, though. Director General WTO. Is there? Yeah, I was rejected from the list, because I'm a man and I became 60. Yeah, yeah, you know, you're not supposed to be on that list. But yeah, I'm gonna reach out to LinkedIn and say, All 40 of these people, if they're not already influences on LinkedIn, they should be positioned as the, you know, the top 500 influencers on LinkedIn, or 40, should be up there. So anyway, it's just brilliant. I'm just, I'm just thrilled. I wanted to highlight that, okay. So obviously, the main, the main focus of what we're going to talk about is going to be continuing to be Ukraine, and it probably will be for some time to come. For the first time, we're not going to talk about COVID Unless, unless you guys want to talk about it. But I want to start from a position of hope. So as everyone who knows me knows, I'm not just reading and watching a whole bunch of stuff. I'm also watching social media and how people are talking and how they're interacting. And I've noticed there's very pragmatic sort of participation, people who can stand back and be objective, and they're just paying attention to the news. But then we have the other side, where people are going into really, really deep fear. They're really struggling with it. It's having a huge impact on their mental health. It they're terrified, and it's very difficult. So if this situation in the world is really crushing your spirit, just step back from the news take, don't take your dog for a walk, go and be on the beach. I always want to remind people when there's when there's life, there's hope. So just always keep that And there's life, there's hope to end that the easiest way to do that is try not to see into the city in the fear of the worst possible outcome. There are so many potential outcomes from what we're facing right now. And none of us know what the final ones going to be. And I just really want to encourage everyone to focus your energy and your attention on the great stories that are happening, because there are a lot of great stories that are happening. And it also could become a story where we move forward as united world it could, right. So that's possible. So there's that there's the saying where your attention goes, energy flows. And there's a lot of people who sit in spiritual sort of space. And they're talking about this, that if we could all sort of get our minds, right. So if all the world's mind is sitting in fear, it makes the situation worse. If we're, if the world's mind is sitting in hope, we could actually contribute to the situation just by our thinking, and you may not even believe that this is a possibility, or, you know, something that's, you know, it might be just far too weird for most people, but when you see it in a positive place, it makes you feel better. So try not to focus on the fearful outcomes, because it won't change anything. It's just gonna make you feel like shit more. The other thing is the feeling of uselessness. And if you guys want to jump in, as well, but the feeling of uselessness is very strong, the, what can we do? I'm taking hope from the incredible unity that we're seeing around the world. And I think this is a chance where we potentially could regain our trust in governments that have been lost for a number of years. So we're coming together, of course, not all countries are jumping in. But we have not seen this level of unity for a very long time. So for me, it's a really good part of the story. And of course, just the final thing is President Solinsky. And we have a leader in him, as well as his wife, who's also been getting a lot of attention. And he's showing great courage. But he's also being an example to the world of what greatest great leadership looks like. And I think we've been starved of leaders like him for a long time, we've seen amazing feminine leadership, like just into her turn, and Angela Merkel, but to have a man sort of rise to his time, he seized his moment. And I actually think, one, it's going to benefit Ukraine in the war, because people are more behind it, because I love him. And so that's, that's a good outcome. It's a good story to be focused on. But I actually think the qualities he's showing will encourage other people to seize their moments to step in and tackle the big challenge that they think needs to be addressed in the world. So they're the positive things. So I don't think Can I take the contrarian approach? Absolutely. Well, learning from what Finland did for so many years, I'm not sure that the President was not manipulated to a place that he is now. And the West made an assumption that they're going to back him up, and he made an assumption that he's going to bet up. But if you look at the result of what's happening, and actually, he put his economy in jeopardy, he's people in jeopardy. So I'm not so sure that by being resistant all the time and coming back to the Jewish history, there were hundreds of warriors on Masada, going against the Roman Empire. Eventually, after a long struggle, they built a dog. And these all hundreds of warriors had to commit suicide and then exile for 2000 years. So not so sure that sometimes if wisdom is better than courage, and and diplomacy with someone that tells you look, if you're going to do that I'm going to invade you. So I'm not so sure everybody wants to glorify. But I would say that as a leader, it's great that you're courageous. But what is the cost of being courageous? What have been the cost of different thing? Say, we'll pause NATO for five years, we're going to talk about unity and understand a little bit and if you you can see that there are some professors in the US that after Crimea tell you exactly what's going to happen and put in delivers what he says, so have to look at the entire thing. heroism, becoming the hero at the expense of the destruction of your country. Might not be the great idea. I suppose I've been to Masada I sent in punches, pilots bath. So I know I know the story that you're talking about. I'm Do you believe that he created this situation? No, I think that he the West should be ashamed because the waste of pushing him to the brink of war. So this happening with hundreds of 1000s of shoulders, soldiers did not make him have just all these things. So they asked to go to the NATO in 2008. All right. So all this is a ritual that is going on, then there is a great thing, I think that you could put the link of what I sent you have the professor that analyze why it's important for putting to have a buffer between him and the West. So yeah, we just didn't listen and put he said, I'm gonna do this if you're going to do that. And he did. Yeah, I suppose what I'm what? Okay, so you're absolutely that. That's a conversation that's part of today. But what I'm talking about is the hope in this moment. And well, he's a leader of a country that's in the middle of this war that has many, many reasons for beginning and you're absolutely right, to bring up some of those reasons. But he, he's row and what he's doing and how he's playing it. It's actually it's actually, it's put putting on the backfoot because he wasn't expecting it. So I was talking about looking for hopeful moments. And for me, that's one of them. So you're not seeing the hoping in that I'm seeing I've seen the hope. But you know, there is a Stockdale paradox about about hope and optimism. And General Stockdale is a famous story from good to great. When he was captured in Vietnam for seven years and tortured, they asked him so who are the optimist? They say, definitely not the one that thought that it's going to be over next year, because they died from a broken heart because of unreasonable expectations. So I think that real optimism is is in the middle is doing something about it, doing something positive about it, not to becoming total pessimists, sad and depressed, or delusionally. Hopeful you need to be at a place where you're practical enough people to take care of the question is whether I'm taking a step back in in this game and say, Okay, put in, let's put moratorium a few years, let's talk and negotiate, don't invade, go back. That would be a more practical hope for me becoming a hero and then die and become a martyr. That's good for the history books. But that's not good for you for your people. But that's my personal point of view. And as my mentor said, once I had an opinion, and that was the worst day of my life. So your opinion, this may be right as well. Yeah. I mean, like your points, actually, obviously, obviously, looking at a build up and Andrew saying what can we do right now. And, and there is an element of, of there was a bit of chest thumping, that that may not needed to have happen. But right now. Right now, he seems to be the one that's rallying hearts. I think that's not going to get the conflict to end what we need now is the letter, we need a letter. So putting can go down from the letter that he is to bring these soldiers back, we need a letter we not we not we don't need the winner. And the winner is going to be for everyone. So all the media that goes he's the hero, he's the villain, they polarize the thing. There's no consideration to where the solution. So a real hope is, let's go for a solution that both sides can live with. I absolutely agree with you. But I think this this week, has mattered. Because there was this feeling that this was just going to be done and dusted. And over and over quickly. And it's not, which potentially creates more space for dialogue with potentially in both parties get something out of it, rather than just Russia winning and getting what they want. Because that actually would just create. We're already in. We're already in the next Cold War. But yeah, I, the people of the world are behind Ukraine. And it's because the way he's carrying himself and that's an important thing. If the people I can if our countries aren't going to put boots on the ground, which I agreed that they shouldn't, because it's just going to escalate things. It's not going to put their boots on the ground, then they're going to support, you know, and we need people to support them to the chance. That's a policy of the West, you help this go and escalate. And you don't even tell him that there's no way that NATO will support you. You send him helmets instead of sending him weapons. And then you expect him to win. So he's the victim of delusional Western and an aggressive tar on the other side. I don't agree I don't agree that they're not sending weapons that there's a lot of Denali do not need. Yeah, yeah. And I think it's because of the character that he showed that they're doing that so like what he said that he doesn't need. He needs weapons, not the right yeah, Nice. Yeah. So one of the escalations that we of course, saw this week was the nuclear escalation. And, you know, where that's obviously something that everyone's incredibly terror terrified about. And it's, it's really difficult to take that on board and sort of digested and, you know, reminded me of the 13 Days War, the Cuban Missile Crisis. If this war goes nuclear, I mean, you know, people are talking about the impact of nuclear, I was reading a report on India and Pakistan, the prediction that would go nuclear at some point. And in this report, basically saying that only three or four nuclear weapons would need to be dropped, and global warming will hit eight degrees, which is unlivable territory. So I suppose what we're all trying to work out is, do we have the first man on the planet who is capable of launching a nuclear war? And that's what we don't know, right? Because he's unrelenting. He seems to be under and run unrelenting. And that's, you know, that's what happens in war. That's a positive right for him. But he's also given himself no exit. And we don't know what he's willing to do. So and there's also several articles saying that the the war is not going as planned. I was just reading that, you know, there's 63 kilometers worth of military tanks on the way to Kiev. And that's been stalled for three days, and they don't know why. Some other ones you know, he's been forced to fight on multiple fronts that he wasn't expecting. He's miscalculations could seem strike harder. But then there's morale issues with the with the Russian troops. We've seen a lot of a lot of information about that, which has been verified by Ukrainians. People, there's another article saying, when you believe your time is almost up, you start a war. So I mean, there's a lot of things happening that appear not to be in alignment to his expectations when he started this war. So it's sort of changed fairly quickly. But welcome, Joe. Hey, I've been I've been multitasking as I shouldn't be doing another webinar while watching you guys. So I've been following the conversation. And I have one urgent bit of business that I have to go through, I need to get Avi to do his microphone, right? Because, you know, I try to tell my clients is as audio is concerned, so I'll be if you can get down to your settings inside of your sorry to do this live, but everybody's time as well. The no show. Here we go. setting down the middle, go to audio. And just make sure that you select the right microphone because you're on Chrome, it does a different microphone than what you usually do. So that nice lavalier microphone of yours can be heard 1237 Wow, that's louder. It's a different one. Okay. 1245 Okay, guys. Thanks, goodness, Farah, but So Ruby now. Have you have a problem with sequences and numbers? They're Avi. Okay. So, if you guys like, you know, how have you been feeling this week? You know, with the whole Russian escalate nuclear escalation? You know, the nuclear force has been put on high alert and Russia, which and, you know, the Western rhetoric was blamed for that, even though we weren't seeing any of that rhetoric. And what any takeaways for you guys? Well, what I was what I was doing was keeping track of different points of view. And I was listening to what India had to say, at least the Indian generals had to say, Yeah, listen to that, too. That was a good one. Yeah. It was quite interesting that the, to understand the underlying it all, is this idea who's prepared to go to war and, and prepare to go to war? And which, which, which way right in terms of what they've been trained for what they've been drilling for. Because there is there is a whole thing about morale and everything else, but there's also how we fall to our level of training. When, when, when, when we're pressured. And Russia has been preparing for, you know, this kind of war for a long time as like, they're, they're prepared to do that. And so the people I think, if you ask, Who in the world is the most prepared to use a nuclear weapon? They are the most prepared whether that is that means that they are right to the edge of using it or not, but they are the most prepared of all the forces I think in the world who have won. They're the ones who are most prepared to use one. And I had to perpetuate though, if everyone believes that I'm ready to press the button, they'll sort of acquiesce to my demand somewhat. of the training I think it comes on one you you you you run, you run regular training, in this particular area that there is this thing about how you can you can you can you can pull a trigger easier if that I mean, it doesn't take me enormous See a bit away. But if what I'm saying is in terms of relative preparedness to use it, I think I think they they've been training for it for a lot longer in a sense that I'm my feeling is that even if Putin were removed, you have enough people who still would go ahead with the plan, which, which is a bit scary. I think it's too early to say people say that it's not according to the plan. And I don't think that it's a coincidence that the people are there for three days with a convoy. And military wise, it's easy with guerrilla fights to kill that line of tanks. And they don't do that. And maybe there's a reason why they don't do that, because probably doing that will give an excuse to go into Kiev. So military wise, the easiest thing to do is to really get down with it. And depends what the plan is, if put in plan is to get the energy sources and choke Ukraine with the energy shortage, then there is a plan and he goes according to his own plan. It doesn't go in life as much as he wanted. But I wouldn't discount put in all these headlines are too early to say. Yeah. I'm also in I heard you talking earlier about the where putt putt has been pushed in the court has been pushed into and to listen to this. This particular answer he gave to a question about when he was asked or pressed, whether he could guarantee no, no incursions into Ukraine, some some sometime in the past, of course, he came back to talk about how NATO or at least the West seem to have given Russia assurances as well about NATO. When when the USSR dissolved, and those assurances have not been kept to as well as in like, NATO is expanded five times. You know, if you think about this, if you're, if you're always placed as the bad guy, this is, this is a move against you. It's a move against you, it's a move against you. You know, I've seen some narratives, which I can like kind of relate to as well, which is the idea that, you know, hey, what happens when you push someone who is patient? I have no illusions about him being a patient, man, I think he's a very strategic person. But there's another question. Look at NATO, the United immediately to go to Libya, but not to help Ukraine. Why did they go to Libya? Because Libya has oil? Why didn't they go to Syria with 660,000 people, the holocaust of our time is there. And the West and NATO are hypocrites. They just don't do the things that elude Ukraine that they can be part of it. So and they went to Iraq, against Russia, whatever they there was no weapon of mass destruction. So good insight, you can do this, but when I do this, it's not okay. So Well, everybody every superpower at a time in history, when they had the power, they tried to use it. Yeah. Richard, Richard, what do you know Richard Branson, Sir Richard, he put he wrote an article where he was definitely acknowledging the failures of the West, somebody who's got some back some noises coming back from somebody. Yeah, and but he also said, It's not the time to talk about that. And we've got to be focused on the challenges that we are facing, but I think the resolution of these has to be part of addressing that hypocrisy and, and the actions of the past and the whole NATO conversation. So, you know, let's hope you know that this scary time actually becomes a time where we actually really do. I think there's been so much arrogance, you know, towards, towards Russia for a very long time. And now they're saying, right, well, we're not. We're not going to take this so. I don't know. But one of the videos you shed heavy was Why is Ukraine the West fault? And I know you started talking about it. And it's a video with John Mearsheimer. Tell me if I'm saying it wrong. Give us a rundown of the takeaways that you took from that video. He just analyzes how did the putting get a red cape in his face, and why it was important for him to have a buffer between that. Now when they think about it, there is a reason why North Korea is allowed to do it once because China doesn't want to have South Korea on its border. And the implication of that, but it's really good to share this link of his video for other people to understand the issue. evolution of that it didn't happen overnight. And the problem with the media is we get right and wrong immediately. But it's very, very complex. Yeah, I'll definitely put it that way my weekend reads and I'll watch it before I publish that. But yeah, I appreciate you've shared a couple of really good things with me this week. But he's very slow. So put it on 1.7. And you're going to get one of the things that was obviously having happened this week is Russia has become a pariah state, thanks to Putin. But we've seen the protests growing within Russia. But there is also an enormous propaganda campaign going on. And any independent media has basically or independent voices have been stamped out. We saw astonishing moment the diplomats walk out his Kremlin Minister says Russia was forced to invade Ukraine. Another video that I thought was really worth watching was Rachel Maddow, if you like her, she did a really sort of interesting sort of overview of what was going on from, from the perspective from her perspective. And also the other piece of news that, as emerged this week is war crime investigations have already started. Apparently, Putin is breaking many, many international rules and doesn't seem to care. So keep an eye out for ICC to investigate to investigate suspected war crimes and a couple of others. He's miscalculations may make him a war criminal. So these are some of the headlines. A thought leader that's really been taking my attention in the last couple of weeks is a man called James Dorsey. I'm going to include a couple of his pieces. One is Ukraine. Lessons not being learned. Did you guys have a chance to have a look at that one? And there were so many that I shared with you this week, you might not have had a chance? I've been a very naughty boy this time around, I'm afraid. What did I say? No, we've got too many to go through. But what I wanted to pass the next one over to Abby was another video, what you really need to know which is another one by John Misha, Mishima about the crisis, the two different ones, right? You sent me two different ones. What was that? Give us? Give us that one? Give us the lowdown. Evie. Oh, you're on mute. And the same thing? Yep. It's basically the same thing that he mentioned before. And Chromia just updated it and made it relevant for for the time people don't listen to that. And surprisingly, you know, if the President would have had been more politically savvy, maybe just getting a referendum like Brexit. For the for the East, would have been easy for him, because later on, he could win elections without the massive opposition. And maybe it's better to have a thriving Western Ukraine that is happy with a happy neighbor that is Eastern Ukraine and enjoy together. But maybe I'm just a small voice about there. But if looking at Maschmeyer is very interesting to see what he says and makes you think whether there is who earns from all this weapon manufacturers, oil mongers. So look at the trail of the money and see who has an interest that this will happen? Yeah. Always, always. It was one of my earliest lessons. When I was in the Army. I was working with a political analyst. He was in the same offices meaning. He said, when it comes to war, always look at the money when the world is in recession will always go to war to bring ourselves out, because it creates jobs. Great. Yeah, I totally with you. Alright, so one of the good stories, I suppose so far this week is we've still got some feedback somewhere. It's on IVs at the moment, so I think the speaker is just playing back through his mic a little bit, which is why I keep muting him. But if we could just Avi if you want to just mute yourself and then come back in when you're saying something that'll work. Yep. All right. Cool. So using hateful, hateful moves in regards to refugees. Okay, so, first of all, there's some bad news about this, that I don't think he's getting enough attention. Basically, foreign students from Africa and some other regions not in Europe, have not been being or not being treated fairly as refugees trying to escape escape Ukraine, and it's it's one of those Black Lives Matters moments and it's not getting the media attention. It should. And to me, it's, it's it's a missed opportunity. Everyone should be treated the same with dignity in this moment. If you're really wants to To win the war war from the heart, they've got to take care of these people. But we discussed it last week, we believe part of Putin's strategy is the reaction of Europe to an influx of refugees. And there's a million on the move right now. But so far, it looks like the response has been good. However, if it becomes a long and sustained war, then you know, that's when the real pressure will start to mount. But I think that if Europe can really step into this moment, and make sure that the the refugees are treated with dignity, and kept safe and secure to get through this time, I think that will make a huge impact on on the outcome of these forms, just because, you know, we're going to talk about the IPCC report, but 3.6 million people are at risk of being on the move based on the climate emergency coming up. So if we can start to focus on building the right refugee infrastructure to support people that need to be on the move, because of the crises that are going on around the world. So why don't we use this opportunity to do it, but to also show that we believe in human dignity rather than pushing people back? I think it'll make a really a really big impact on the world psyche at the moment. So have you guys been looking at any of the refugee stories? Can I give ray of hope over here, in 1990, Israel absorbed more than a million Russians, immigrants, and it was chaotic for a few years, because engineers were cleaning streets and doing dirty jobs. But later on the push that all this very qualified. Immigration brought was making a startup nation within the number one startup per person per capita in the entire world. So the people from Ukraine are extremely smart, extremely savvy, and whoever host them are going to enjoy long term, you should take them as gifts rather than a liability. If there's a ray of hope, over there, another ray of hope I saw in the finish railroads, that they allow everyone that has Ukrainian passport needing a long term and long distance pass, just show the passport and you get a free ride. So there are a lot of good people doing a lot of good things now. And if you look at that, and you just focus on that you say we have some great things in our humanity. Absolutely. Absolutely. That's yeah. I mean, that's what we're talking about at the beginning, that real hope that sort of come through it come for me, it comes through there. Moving on to sanctions, so we were talking a lot about sanctions last week, and whether or not they would work. And there's obviously a lot of skepticism around the power of sanctions. We've seen that in the past that they don't really work, or they just hurt the people. They're a huge part of the story. So just just some of the highlights that have come up. Roman Abramovich has basically put Chelsea up for sale. He originally he put it into a sort of a charitable trust. Russia has lost 70% of Russians banks have lost access to Swift, which is a payment messaging system. I'm sure John knows more about that. Shell and BP have both announced their exit from Russia, which is quite significant. The Russian oligarchs are moving their yachts to the Maldives, as sanctions are being levied. Airbus and Boeing are closing operations. And I've seen that coming from Airbus or Boeing, or using their facilities for refugees. I just saw Accenture is closing its operations in Russia. And the Russian airlines basically facing outcasts status as jet makers, freeze pots, the skies have closed down all around the waterways, even Turks have closed the waterways. And of course, we saw sanctions on the central bank, which resulted in an increase of 20% of interest rates immediately. So obviously, huge suffering for ordinary people. But we've also seen sanctions on a level and on a scale that has never happened before. So will it work? Will it help? Thoughts? Well, I think it'll hurt the Russian people. I don't think it'll hurt Putin at all. And and get he's got he's a mess of money. That's the that's that's the biggest challenge with sanctions but what what sanctions end up doing is rallying the people against their leader. That's, I think that's a that's the idea. But it's, it's, uh, that one's a tough one as well. The other the, the, the big piece of information I got was from my weather app, which is carrot, which is a, it's got a it's got a you can you can adjust the level of abuse in the actual weather app. And this one is the clean version. It said You know, you've screwed up if Switzerland are free Using your funds. So, which was like the upshot of it all, but yeah, that's my, my, the thing is I'm What if you're going to put in sanctions you need to go hard and fast. And, and, and make and make it a statement that rattles. And it seems like that's what's happening. Yeah. sceptical and following. Following the money and everything else, this could be just a grand excuse to move things around a little bit. But, but at the same time, like I said, my my concern is, we've seen it with North Korea as well, when they put in sanctions, it doesn't change anything at the top, it just harms the people. Worse, what happened is there's no vacuum and the vacuum immediately goes to be filled, like in Iran. So when Iran had sanctions that people would step in with the Chinese and the Chinese just as smart, they buy it in a cheaper way. So now the Chinese are getting also to trade in un 7% of the oil already. So the Chinese are stepping in any vacuum calls for them just to sit and wait for them to punch each other. So they're going to benefit from it. Yeah, yeah. The the China's side of the story is pretty interesting. Um, there's, some people believe that China will be the country that goes in and is agreed to the diplomacy. For Yeah. But but there's, you know, but then a lot of the sanctions that play apparently Russia's what not Russia, China's watching it, because if the same comes and lands on China, it's it's going to have a massive impact, too. So I don't know, it's been a couple of the articles in Reuters, Russian economic collapse will be hard to avoid. Another one in The Guardian, the damage is done Russians face economic point of no return. And there's a really great piece in The Atlantic called how Russian sanctions work. I really encourage if you want to understand the sanctions side of the conversation, that's a really good article to read. Okay, so the here's here's another big part of the story. So cyber cyber attacks, the technology industry, and the business world. So there's so many parts to this. But first of all, so a non anonymous anonymous show you guys have seen him they've got the the white mask, came out at the beginning of the week and said they're going after the Russian government infrastructure. And we've heard them say that they're going to do things before but we haven't really seen the outcome. This time. Apparently they've they've really had some impact. But there's also another group of hackers in Ukraine and Russia working together to take out government infrastructure. So the cyber cyber activity is pretty interesting. Then, Elon Musk responded to a tweet from the Vice Vice Prime Minister of Ukraine, and has switched on his Starlink satellite, which gives Ukrainians access to the internet, which is obviously a huge benefit in a time like this. Google disabled its maps in the Ukraine after I realized that it could show Russia could show Ukrainian troop movements. So it took away that window for for the Russians, the creative industry, they've all come together and they're running an information war, which is pretty impressive to read about. There's a lot more pressure on Silicon Valley to do more to have an impact. There's a Russian billionaire behind a company called revolute FinTech app who's published an anti war letter. He there was something published the day before and then the next day, he went out and was a much bigger, bigger statement against war, and He's based in the UK. Another one. The team who tracked Elon Musk's private jet on Twitter is now Tracy, chasing Russian oligarchs and their jets, which apparently are like seven, four, sevens, these massive, massive things, but one of the ones I really thought was brilliant was there's a keyboard army that are basically using the restaurant review sites to leave information that people can't get access to in Russia, so that people are getting their access to the outside world's information through things like TripAdvisor. So I thought that was pretty interesting. The Kremlin a word so delightful and please be careful on route 75 The Kremlin Boulay you go any any of those sort of stories that caught your attention? I I've been that's probably one of the ones that I've been enjoying well as for the more from the move by Elon Musk is that he's also giving Russians access to the internet a different version of the internet as in like because they're so close anyway. Right. So I think the the discussion was how the miscalculation. This was when the from the Aussie guy, Aussie bloke coming about what is what is the man reviews, Ozzie man reviews, right? The miscalculation was having soldiers with phones, right that the Russian soldiers have phones. And if you think about Elon Musk's has done basically is given access to the internet for everyone, not just, you know, not just people on the ground on one side, but everyone as well. And because of the kind of, of communication that's being made in Russia, having access to this can be can be a bit of a game changer as well. I mean, it gives it gives those who want to, at least to hear the opposite side of the story, a chance to hear it because you hear some of the interviews with with Russians and who are getting that one perspective. Like, for instance, all the coverage in Russia does not show Russian aggression. It just does not make it an attack, it does not make it an invasion. It is all defensive. It doesn't show any of the aggression on its footage. The narrative is very, very different and quite acceptable as in like, if you combine that with what's happened before, there's always there's a bit of Dan Brown, you know, narrative going on, right? There's some basis for the for the truth. I mean, if you think about what NATO has been doing all these years, if you're aware of that, you go like, yeah, they've been they've been they've been doing all the things they shouldn't have been doing. The naval now wants to join the evil empire. So if you think about it from a Star Wars perspective, now you've got the planet next door, is now being part of the Rebel Alliance, right. So if you if you if you have the right perspective on things, you can see why in Russia, it would make sense that this is the truth that that Russia is being threatened. And all they're doing is defending themselves. But at least with access, they're going to be able to see different aspects of it, they're going to be able to see, you know, the, the footage, or some of the footage, somebody at least something that create that, that doubt that maybe there's something more to this. I mean, you know, I think I think what you need is a middle ground. It doesn't have to be either way, per se. But I think if people are at least more down the middle, there's a chance for something to happen. Yeah, there's another Did you see the speech made by the Kenyan, I think is the Kenyan ambassador to the UN. I think it was a Kenyan. But anyway, he was he was or the Kenyan foreign minister. But it was a wonderful, wonderful piece about because everyone was was saying that bit, but what he did, he was talking about how Africa inherited boundary lines drawn up by colonists who were leaving. And they had on one side that the the families and everybody else is on this side of the border, and they're on this side of the border. And, and, and if they were trying to redefine the the boundary lines to what they thought it should be, which is his interpretation of what Putin is doing, and how it was silly for them to have, you know, acquiesce to Ukraine's borders being like this, then, if Africa was doing that, then there would be nonstop bloodshed. And when you look at the history of Africa, that has certainly been the case in a lot of instances when, when that's when that when that strategy is tried, but But what he said is what they're doing is they're going, Okay, we've inherited that that's where the line is, but maybe we can operate together as at a level above a line drawn on a map, where we can coexist in a, in an effective way that creates opportunity for all of Africa, that we're not competing against ourselves here, but that we're taking on something above and beyond that, with with, you know, and playing upon in a bigger world. And the way that he articulated it was, was erudite, eloquent and, and quite frankly, very, very powerful. Sounds great. It was your idea? What if one day Europe will take a Russia as part of the European Union? I think if there is, we are seeing polarity that may not be necessarily there, everybody there is European. And what we offer now what we need now is letters and hope and ability to put the things together. And instead of just saying that we're going to need a little bit of more work, we need a little bit more, delighting ourselves and others. Yeah, we need different solutions, right? And when you you know, when you look at what's ahead for humanity and the challenges that we have to overcome, we need to have a different attitude We needed you know, we need a different world and a different way of thinking about how the world operates. And it's great to hear that perspective on Africa. And it's the same India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, you know, I mean, the colonial powers got so much wrong, and it's never been righted. You know, when I was an alien coming to, to Earth, I would say, what are these guys doing? You don't understand they need to go together, they have a habitat for themselves to save the the world we're going to stay after they're going to be demise. And they are kicking each other instead of uniting, and have more aggressive goals for sustainability. So I would be very alien would say they need us to sort of almost invade them for them to actually get over the Squibbles and squabbles and actually do something useful. Yeah, we've already put a defense up around the world anyway. So the debris that we've got floating around in space to wipe out any alien Armada. But yeah, there's there's loads of really, really great, deep and thoughtful pieces on this wall, one in the New York Times is this Cold War could be worse than the last. And it's sort of talks about how this is the very first war fought on tic toc. And it's a really interesting perspective from it. We were talking about technology before. Another one that I found really, really interesting is Putin's attack on Ukraine is a religious war. And that was a perspective I had never heard before. And it's about the breakup of the Russian Orthodox Church and the formation of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church. So that's worth having a look at. And then there's some really good ones. And the final one is audit, autocracy is winning. That's in the Atlantic, I recommend everyone have a read of that, because obviously, autocracy winning is not a good thing for the world. That that's kind of my wrap up so far of the week as far as Ukraine goes. So anything else you guys want to add? If you want to talk about the life, now, we're going to go into that just going to do the environment society section, and then we'll go into that because I think we need to hear all the bad news first. So they can be in the right mindset. Turn around. What we're doing right now is setting Avi for a tremendous success, because you know, it's only against darkness that the candle becomes extremely bright. Right, so Exactly, exactly. It's a strategy, we break them down before we build them up again, right. So we've got some more breaking down to do. Alright, so we're off by then. Which, of course, they're not going to do Tim. Okay, environment society. So like I said, we're not I didn't read anything on COVID This week, for the first time since since pandemic began, which is quite amazing. But in the environment. Facebook is exacerbating the climate crisis. So look out for that one, by failing to label misinformation. So basically, there's these top 10 voices at the Facebook keeps an eye on and they're just not even acting on what they're doing. And they're there. They're known for spreading disinformation around the climate crisis. I'm in Australia and I'm obviously been keeping an eye on Australia as the rain bomb hit. And that was what the Queen Queensland premier called it. I know that 10 have died so far. It ran through Queensland when went into New South Wales, and of course those rivers are all connected and we'll be heading into Victoria. I was in Australia 10 years ago, when pretty bad flooding that was that was bad at the time. This is this is even worse at the time. It was called a one in 100 year event. This has been called a hard one and 100 year event and here we are 10 years later, apparently the Australian Government says Now is not the time to talk about climate change. In response. Yeah, in 83 was the coldest winter in Israel and highway was floated, and the weathermen say it's one in 100 years, the next year when it happens, they challenged him for the one and 100 years they say this one is for the last 100 This one is for the next 100 Yeah, yeah. Okay. It's some good use. countries have agreed and historic move to draw up legal treaty to end plastic production. So in the in the content that I'm going to share it talks about plastic production was expected to double by 2040. But in other research, it's expected to triple we all know that we're in a waste crisis, we can all say the beaches and the oceans full of plastic. It's revolting where we are and this is a real victory because the petroleum industry have obviously been banking on plastic as part of their future. So it's a real it's a real victory and this is not about the world still will need plastic but it's it's the plastic that's created for that single use. Just a brief moment of existence before it goes into the trash and there's no infrastructure in place to clean it up. You know, it's we all know We're in a mess. So I thought that was a brilliant, brilliant piece of news, you guys. Yeah, thumbs up from me. All right. IPCC report, the second of the third IPCC report has been released. It has hardly gotten the coverage it has it deserves an article in The Guardian IPC issues bleakest warning yet. Antonio Guterres from the Secretary General United Nations said the suffering outlined in the report is a damning indictment of failed climate leadership. It is also a harrowing tale of rank injustice. 3.5 billion people, almost half the global the world's population live in countries that are going to be highly vulnerable to climate impacts. And these are typically the countries that have not been the ones responsible for the emissions that have created the problem. You know, so one of the predictions is if global temperatures saw above four degrees, say about pre industrial levels, Africa will ensure 118 fold increase in extreme heat events, it's it's gonna become an unlivable continent, right? Well, Europe will just get a fourfold increase, which sort of gives you gives you an idea of how it's gonna play out. Have you guys had a chance to have a look at at any at the report or some of the summaries of the report? So that's Africa is 100 times Europe is four times. What about the other continents? I haven't got that in front of me. But I've just given you one example. But just stark difference I hadn't I hadn't dwelt into gone into it in any detail. Yeah. Well, the good news is there's gonna be a nuclear bomb, it will create a cooling effect, so or it will destroy all life on Earth by by putting temperatures up to eight degrees, right. So so one way or another, so the bomb will level a great playing field between Europe and Africa. Well, as with all things, you need the right number of bombs to go off. I think that's where we are where we're going to find the middle ground right now. Right? Sorry, for a moment. That's yeah, I think the right number of bombs is no bombs. Yep. Yep. You know, the weird, the weird thing is that this, this, the humor that we're portraying, is not a disrespect for what's going on, it's almost a, it's almost a I feel, it's a sense of, in one sense, it's a feeling like, there's nothing we can do about it. So let's just go on with life as usual. Apart from trying to trying to inform, trying to encourage particular elements of actually, we talked about the top top of the show, but, but it just feels like it feels like we're at the behest of small groups of people who are, you know, large gorillas beating themselves up while the rest of their clients are scary to the trees and wait for the, the, the end to happen, and somebody to be left in charge. You know, it feels like we're small animals in, in a big clan, and frustrating. And, and either and like you said at the top of it, we can dwell in the fear of it, we need to acknowledge it and face it. But and so the reason why I mentioned that is I don't want people to think that we're making light of this. Were just, I guess we kind of just dealing with it. Well, the reason nosy men review was asked, Well, he did he's Ukrainian video was because the Ukrainians reached out to me and said, We need humor. It's humor is really important. And I agree with that we can't be serious all the time, we should be able to talk about the darkest things with a smile on our face. Because what else can we do? Right? We can sit here in terror. But But yeah, so the IPCC report, and I haven't seen the country breakdowns, which they usually do. So how is it gonna practice impact Australia, Singapore. So keep an eye out for that. But just go to the IPCC website. But basically, they're saying that, obviously, adaptation is a big part of what we're going to have to do now. Because we're at a time that the risk is so great. Now that no seawall or technological fix will will will save us and I'll give you a few points. But this climate emergency dwarf dwarfs any challenge humanity has ever faced it has ever faced, and everything has to change for us to overcome this, and it has to happen this decade. And we're not like Joe, in every week, we'll talk about the climate emergency and you'll give me your perspective. And I know, I know that you're not even remotely sort of thinking about what needs to change yet. And I know that and you represent to me a lot of people Just like we're just going to continue with life as normal. But life as normal cannot continue if we want to overcome the emergency that we face. So we still need people to really realize this, there is sacrifice ahead. But it doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing, that we can create a better world. And if we're stuck in cynicism, of we're stuck in war, we're not going to be in the mindset to be able to do that. And that's, you know, the courage of leadership that Zelinsky has shown potentially could make Maxim people around the world step up into their vocal leadership and their active leadership on tackling some of the biggest crisis the world is facing in the climate in the climate space. So I mean, what do you guys think? Tax taxes, what I think, I think green is the biggest power in this world out with the exception of love, of course. But if we could get greed to change the economics of put the real cost of plastic, on plastic as tax as global tax, it will change within a very short time, manufacturers will need to people that sell Coca Cola and others will have to change and switch, if the tax is going to be high enough and globally enough, and deposit about that could give actually money to homeless to collect it. But if we leave it to just goodwill of all of us, and we are oblivious to the end of the day, there is a big fall. And let's just enjoy the ride meanwhile, so global tax is a good thing to think about and implemented very, very fast. Make it painful and costly to produce things that harm our environment. Yeah, effectively pay the full price of the cost into the price of the products, right? The government needs to do we Yeah, that's what we need the government's to do. Yeah. Yeah. And so there's another article in the BBC. So if you just want to get the top five points that sort of come through very strongly in the IPCC report. The first is things are way worse than we thought. And I think for people like me, I know, for Tim forever, you've been paying attention for a long time. For a lot of people, we've, we've known this for a long time, and people aren't, they might think we're a little bit nuts when we go out and we talk about it. But um, you know, I've been talking about way worse than we thought for a long time. So now I'm feeling happy, because the IPCC report shows that it's correct. So it's happening faster than they predicted it was going to happen. And it's happening. So what it was a climate related impacts are hitting the world of the high end of what model is once expected, and much more quickly than previously assessed by the IPCC. So you have to remember, this is not just the scientists, it's also government's approving the release of this document. And that's why I've always known it's a lot worse than, as the reports have said, because in order for the language to be signed off by all these countries around the world, apart from the Ukrainians who had to go into bomb shelters, but otherwise everybody else has signed this off. So it's, it's, it's a big deal. The other number two points was loss and damage, get scientific backing. So basically, this is saying that the wealthy countries responsible for emissions liable to pay for loss in debt damages in developing countries who are not responsible for the emissions. And obviously, you know, Africa is on the on the way to becoming uninhabitable, uninhabitable. So what are we doing to prepare for that? Because that's going to be a mass migration moment, right. But it's always been controversial because the rich countries obviously do not want to pay for these lessons, losses and damages that they have contributed to. But that's part of the solution that we need to come up with looking forward. Number three, technology is not a silver bullet. The use of some technologies designed to limit warming or reduce co2 could make matters worse, rather than better. There are also worries that machines that suck co2 from the air could simply trigger the release of more warming gas, which I thought was really interesting. I hadn't heard that one before that sort of point of view so strongly, number four cities offer hope. I don't know if you guys have been looking at the Jakarta being moved into Kalimantan. Have you seen the story of the new city that's being built because Jakarta seeking so cities offer hope, which I thought was interesting, because I wasn't expecting that to be in the report. Because cities can as they grow, they can push for renewable energy, greener transport greener buildings. This could limit describe the describe some destructive climate impacts that for millions of people, so how cities move forward. And then the final point five, the small window is closing fast. Well, you know, the authors are obviously saying yes, this report is bleak. They are convinced that the worst impacts can be avoided, averted if we act in time. The opportunity for action is only in this decade. It's not 2050 promises, it's now. And that's the last and final sentence in the report with this is it, this is the time, we need to act. Now, if we don't, all of these terrible, terrible scenarios will break out. So please pay attention to what to the IPCC report, there's a lot of people if you don't want to read the report, there's a lot of people talking about it, giving different perspectives on it. This is our chance. We need to we need to we need to, we need to move. Thoughts. Well, my usual go to is in terms of technology and stuff, and I know you've mentioned it there. But I, I feel that you know, most time there's a reason why things don't stop or don't change is because someone's coming along and say, you've got to stop what you're doing right now. You got to stop what you're doing, stop what you're doing whatever you're enjoying right now, you got to stop doing that. And I was thinking, what if we took an approach of what you've got to do more than what you're doing right now? And not, you know, not in terms of, so that that there must be some kind of way to you know, like, like, if you talk about consuming consumption, responsible consumption, responsible consumption is responsible because of what you do after the fact. Could we try and redesign the way we do things so that, you know, if it makes people stop, what they do is too difficult, then what if we said, Okay, well do what you do. But now, I'm going to incentivize you to do something else, immediately after that, right? I mean, the Coca Cola company, for instance, would be hard pressed to say, I'm going to ignore this, if there's a chance to make millions of dollars building flats from plastic after the fact, if that's something something that can be done. Badly interesting, you know, you turn you turn use bottles into using technology and some other kind of stuff. You turn that into a precious resource. I mean, if you if you turn, if you turn the plastic of the world into the new sand, you know, like, we were having a shortage of sand right now, how do we how do we say okay, well, now, okay, we consume this way. And now what do we do after that? So that we can, we can do something better with it? It's very smart. What you're saying it's a research by BJ Fogg, he looked at something that is called Tiny habits. And what he found in his research, by the way, the biggest habit in that makes people happier, is very interesting. Are you willing to be playful with me? So nobody? Asked me to turn off my camera. No, no, please, no. So ask you in a second, to close your eyes, I'm going to say good morning. And what you need to do is to stand up from your chair, and you say it's gonna be a great day. All right, so close your eyes. And I'm gonna say good morning, you open it, good morning. It's gonna be a great day. It'll be great, right? This, this millions of people on his website, said that this tiny habits make them really happier before they went. And another thing that he found out that the way to get another habit is to connect it with something that you did before. So if you have the habit of brushing teeth, and you want to have your tummy, flatten, then just after you brush your teeth, then go to do your belly up. So what you say makes a lot of sense. For example, if you buy a new dress, take a dress that you've stopped using, and put it for charity. So if you have this kind of thing that makes a lot of sense, what you say to Augustine. Yeah. Well, you will, you will be noticing from Monday, I am going to launch every single day ideas and what we can all do to make a difference in the world. And it's individual things. And it's big things, small things. And I'm just going to do it every day until I run out of ideas. And I'm going to be looking for ideas from you guys. So feel free to share them. But yeah, I've already got like 100 and I haven't even started looking into the podcast we did Tim where you guys all share different ideas, but it's just yeah, everyday what are the habits you can change and they're not it doesn't. It doesn't have to be big things. It's just we have to live in harmony with nature, and we have to respect Earth. And if you're one of these people that goes through five plastic water bottles a day and each of those water bottles can last in the environment for 500 years and there is currently no way for that water bottle to go to be reused or turned into refugee housing or whatever. You know, every year that's a lot of individual waste. You know, all of the, you know our toothbrushes last for 500 to 1000 years, every toothbrush we've ever bought is still here. Every piece of plastic ever created is still here. You know, so it's just a About Us being much more conscious and in tune with the decisions and their impact, but also, this being more in tune with the suffering that it's created, like you were talking about fashion, you know, the suffering and the human in the human supply chain, you know, the the abuse, as well as the environmental abuse in the fashion industry. So guilty of not making any changes, but so we buy different brands, we don't support those brands, we educate ourselves, we work harder, you know, people are people always say to me, Oh, how do I know I'm not going to the research going hashtag in slavery now. Hashtag he made my clothes movement. You know, there's so many movements that are going on and we have to work harder. And you know, everyone keeps wanting to be spoon fed. And yeah, okay, I'm going to start spoon feeding with ideas. It but it doesn't mean I've got all the ideas, I just want to I just want to contribute to creating change, you know, climate terian ism. Have you heard it is a new word. It's a it's a diet. And of course, I love that. It's brilliant, right? So if you want to be a true climate terian ism. How do you say cometary material, number one would be vegan, but not everyone can be vegan. So number two is vegetarian, great. This still some animal in that in that, but if you're going to eat meat, eat it locally. You know, source it from the farms in your country. Don't fly it in from Australia or Japan, you know, seafood? You know, we've got to start looking at this. You know, so there's, yeah, we just have different way of looking at seafood. We see the food, but we don't take the shrimps and all that kind of thing. Yeah, that's right. It's pretty rare for me to eat seafood. I mean, you know, it's, it's pretty task toxic these days. You know, my husband has a tuna for his lunch. And I'm like, because it's better than eating gluten. I'm like, sure. Daily Dose of mercury, you know? You know, it's true, right? What we can't see, we seem to want to ignore, but we've all got to just do what we can. And we build change from the bottom up. We drive it, the leaders aren't gonna do it, we're gonna drive it. We aren't behind you. united behind you. With me, with you. I'm very united behind you and with you, but to the point where I'm gonna have to actually say goodbye for the show tip for today. But I will be attempting to listen in as I extricate myself, but thank you. Thank you, Avi. I look forward to hearing what you have to say in the delight part of it. You know, good luck with your work. Thank you. I fly tonight, too, by the way. So there's no I haven't been. I haven't been as as paranoid about COVID As I have been this week, because the flight was dark. Don't touch anything. Yeah, Australia. Now, enjoy. Enjoy. Is there any chance that we could just see what your passport looks like right now before you go? Because I think that's gonna make this a viral moment of the week. All right. Got a wash. Went through the wash. So now it looks like that. But you'll know that's pretty decent now. It's actually it's actually this one now. How do you go? Yeah. So I got a little emergency passport. And turn the new ones on the way. So the Australian Australian Embassy was fantastic. You know, the next day the thing was available. So obviously, a lot of Australians put their passport through the wash. It is flooding there at the moment. So there would be a lot of wet passports, I imagine. Yes. I'm going to the Sunshine State where the forecast is nonstop rain. But anyway, I'm there to see Mum and Dad haven't seen him for a couple of years. And this is a small opportunity to be able to do it. But I've enjoyed the show so far. Like say it up. Alright, so I think this might be the perfect time to move into delivering delight during challenging times. So every we've laid out some pretty challenging and grim sort of news stories and you know, the welds on the on the edge people are on the edge. So help us learn how to deliver delights. Alright, so basically, you know it and did I say what is the engine of delight? I guess I did. It's about contribution contribution. And I get the question. Very often that leaders asked me What if I'm having negative thoughts and I have a terrible day. How can I be delighting and I'll be happy to share a tip with you if you're a leader that sometimes have This feelings. And I'm going to ask you a question. On a bad day when people ask you, how are you? What do you answer? I usually Yes. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay. And you're supposed to sell what do you say? That's it? Yeah, I wouldn't. That's great. And you know the difference between how you feel. And what you portray to be this is the amount of energy that is going to be sapped out of you during the day, because you need to put up a show all the time. But what if I tell you two words that you add any word out after that it's going to be uplifting for yourself for others, and makes you authentic and vulnerable at the same time? But safe? Would that be cool? Yep. Yeah. All right. So I'll ask you to play with me. I did this in. It's the first time that it happened to me a few years ago, the HR director of the University of Dubai rawa, asked me that question. And I asked the entire audience to say, in a minute, I'm going to ask you to put your hands here as if they were the blinders of a horse. Because that's how we wake up. We wake up in the morning, and we see everything that did not happen, yet the chores that we have to do the problems that we tackle the people that said this or that will last, and we narrow the things to worried from the beginning. But is that the reality that we live in? Let's make a trial. So what I'm going to ask you, once you put your hands every time you're going to say yes, you move your hands, one inch to the side, one inch up. Are you game? Let's stop. Right. Beside want to jump? Yeah. All right. So I'm just a person who doesn't, you know, some people watch the videos without the volume up, and I'm wondering what is going on? Right. Okay, so, all right. So what happened? Did you wake up on the bed? Yes, yes. Yes. All right. That means that you have a bed, and you know that there is about 115 million people today that are homeless. Did you have sanitation? You have a toilet? Yes. Yes. Yes. That's about 3 billion people that don't have decent sanitation. Did you have food today? Yes, yes. Are you safe today? Yes, you are in the city, you and you are in a safe place. We talked about the war. There's about 115 million kids in the last 10 years that are refugees. Do you have a job and you can support yourself? And then there's 1.3 billion poor with many of them below $2? Do you have electricity? There's about 759 million people they don't have. So if you do this, can you show me your hands like that? Alright, maybe like that. Because at the end of the day, you're going to see this at the abundance that you're leaving. So if you have this comparing to so many people, are you blessed yes or no? Yeah, absolutely. And if you bless, can you be grateful for all the blessings that you have? Yeah. Okay, so ask me, I'll be How do you feel on a bad day? How do you feel on a bad day? blessed and grateful, and sad, which could be today, because maybe I'm sad. Now. That opens me to know that in 90%, I'm okay. But the temporary thing that I'm feeling is okay, I can be sad, I can be mad, I can be glad I can be angry, I can be frustrated. And when I tell this to people around me, they actually feel that I'm authentic, and they could help me. And as being vulnerable. I say, I'm upset to say, okay, you know what? I'm not going to pay attention to your tantrums today. Because I know that you told me that. And you know, the full types of people you're going to meet when you say that. The first one will think that you got to religious. The second one that wouldn't care, the third one that will really be interested to hear more about it. And that's a good thing. But the fourth one is the one that you're interested. You could see immediately the drop of energy in them and sad face because they don't feel that they are blessed. They don't feel that they are grateful. And if you could spend a few minutes with MSA, let me buy your coffee. Let me listen to what's going on in your life. That will be the biggest thing that you could do. also as a leader when you notice, other people like that, and when you notice that you people are in that place of having a terminal, sometimes sensing that moving up from empathy, which is sensing or compassion, which is the desire to alleviate someone's else's pain, to kindness and say, You know what, why don't you go back office, and I'm going to take the front desk for you for this time. That's where this is a small, small tip that will help you in negative moments. The second thing that I would share with you tips about delight, a lot of people are very skeptic because they have organization that at the top is very transactional, money, bottom line, money, bottom line, I don't care about you just deliver. And they say, How can I be a delightful leader at the place that nobody really cares about me or my people? And the answer is, first, you chose to be here today. Hopefully, you're talented, and you could go somewhere else. And you're just not just stack, consider delight as kind of an umbrella that you could use to shield all the negative things that happen above, and you handle it. And just take care of your own team and make your own team a delightful place where you take care of people, we you share with them, the goodness, you have some fun, you have some joy, you connect, you help them to solve problems. That's what real delight is all about. So there's no excuse not to be delightful. Just because somebody else up there is not. And give, even if do people, some people may try to abuse you, I call them the black holes of delight. The minute that you see that your hand is disappearing. You understand? Okay, I got it. This is a person that they have to be very careful. And I need to put boundaries around that. Yeah, this is some delightful tips that people said that they were very helpful for them. You're chanting sorry. One of the things that you said at the beginning was the sort of saying I'm grateful for my life. And I'm sad. I don't think that most people are really particularly interested in hearing what if you're in if you're in a good mood or not, they just want to hear, I'm great. You know, that's all they want. And if you if you go any deeper, like you were talking about those four different types of audiences, where there's a small group that you can actually have a, you can reach and have a deeper connection with because you are honest and authentic in how you were feeling? Do you think it's more do you think it's important to rather than have the other people go? Well, that's a bit of a weird response. Is it better to be a little bit more in tune with responding at the right time to the right people who potentially actually do want to have a deeper conversation? Yeah, the last thing that you you need to make other people to be deposit place for your garbage. That's not the that's not the intention. And, but when you're working in a team together, if you can't be authentic with your team, if you can't share with them, what's going on, and you, you may have tough moments, and actually, the greatest time to, if you really want to become more influential, and the time that people feel low, and they have problems in their life, that's the best time to invest in them. That's the best time to get let them an ear that the best time to go to the funeral of the relative that the best time to show to show your support. But I do agree with you, Andrea, that you don't flawed your problems on others, being blessed and grateful doesn't mean that I'm floating on you. I acknowledge that I'm blessed. I'm acknowledging them grateful. And I'm doing it in an uplifting way for you to know that. I know that but at the same time, I'm having a moment. I'm having a tough day. I'm having a tough week. I'm having a tough month. Maybe I'm a burnout. But that's the reality, but I know that I'm blessed and grateful. So once you start with it, you're already connecting, because you're not coming as a complainer. You come in as someone that just want to be honest. Yeah. And you clarified it by when you were talking about being part of a team, right? It'd be like, if you want to take it outside of the work. It's been part of a family, to your husband or wife. How are you feeling today? I'm actually you know, Steven, I had an agreement all the way through COVID. When we came downstairs in the morning that we said to the other one, how we were feeling that day, if we were off color, because we've all gone through those times, you know, and sometimes it's gone on for weeks where the other one said, Yeah, I'm just I'm not there today. And then we say, What can I do? You know, for? And we both need different things and different responses. But if you're close to people, you know, I think that's beautiful advice. And you know what, I do it all the time. And I can tell you that it, it's really opening a lot of doors for me, because people are very curious about less than grateful. And because I don't dump on them. Anything but I say I'm blessed and grateful. And today, I'm feeling so so. And they're suddenly very intrigued. What happened, but it comes not as flooding. But as kind of this is what happened. Now it's up to them to decide whether they want to ask me about it or not. But I would not go and continue over there. But it's really connecting. It's really connecting conversation when you're able to be authentic, and you don't lose all this energy. I can be blessed and grateful and having a terrible day. That's okay. Yeah. I like the energy message. So what about you? Do you reckon you could do it? I mean, yeah, you're not you're not a fan of networking anyway. So I'm just sort of thinking, How would you feel obviously, within the family, it's different. But well, I don't think it's obvious because for me, I this idea of fanless I've been I've been poisoned by fairness, I think or the need for fairness since I was young. And unfortunately, what I do is I'm not, I'm not capable enough of delivering unfair support to family and friends. You know, I've been I've been accused that I don't think I'm accused of that. I think I'm resented for it. But I, in my own self analysis, I realized that I'm not biased enough to my friends and my family, you know, I'm not prepared to, I'm not prepared to cut corners, as it were on on values and facts and stuff like that, you know, for for that purpose. And this past week, I actually came across a term which I really, I'm taking apart and trying to take on board as well. And it's, it's, it's from Steve pink. I can't remember his name, Steve. Steve Pinkerton. I think it is the guy I talked about the linguist as well as the optimist. He says, There's room for benign hypocrisy. You know, and I think benign. You know, that's, and I was gonna take it a little bit further and say, not quite benign, but I call it benevolent hypocrisy, you know, where, where we say something, perhaps that we completely don't mean, but we try and do it and as real as possible, but the reason we do it, it's, it's benevolent. You know, it's, it's, it's the way we do something for somebody else, just because it's the better thing to do. And we put aside things like the need for logic, and perhaps fairness. That's, that's the challenges. It's a big one. For me, it's a it's a hard one to do. And it's just a time you could be uplifting at the same time that you give that you give good, tough messages. I think that a lot of people confuse criticism with feedback. And criticism is something that puts people down. Oh, he just gone? Nope, sorry. My accidents, right? That's me. Sorry. You don't want to hear that. I was intriguing. It was intriguing. We saw your lips. going blind. We're missing it. Actually, when we when we worked for our book, we interviewed 220 leaders for 30 instead of seven countries and six continents. And a big shout to Daniel Lee, who is the did majority of the work the first time leadership. We find out a lot of a lot of things about about leadership. And the first thing that we heard is, people don't want you to be likable. And we thought that as a leader, you're supposed to be likable. But all the leaders, all of them said like ability is liability. If it is a goal. It's a result. What we want you to be is we want you to be authentic. We want you to develop them, we want you to do the right thing. Because if your goal is to be likable, you're actually going to cheat a lot just to do that and everything might collapse, you're not going to be able to do the right thing. But as a result of being a person of values, being respected, being hard working and uplifting everybody else you're going to get to be liked. But we didn't choose you for like ability like ability as a result. And then I can tell you that happiness, money, success. Love and trust are all results of the right habits. If you have the right habits of doing the right thing. You're going to earn each one of them and if you just focus it as a goal, you're gonna be exhausted. Hmm. You know, you were talking about the difference in the difference between feedback and criticism. So, you know, I've been in business for 30 years, you guys too, right? I think some people give their feedback. And it is criticism because they're not very good at giving feedback. And so I think that gets confused. They go, Oh, but I'm just giving feedback. You know, I'm just giving feedback. And I'm like, No, you're being an asshole. That's not what you say. And here's what we found. We talked to the Chief Marketing Officer of Airbnb. And what he said is that they have something that is called RTF. real time feedback. And I think what we don't understand is that we need to ask each person, how do you like to have your feedback? Some people are very sensitive, and you can't tell them that they are sensitive. What happened is that you are insensitive, if they are sensitive as a leader. So you can ask people, How would you like your feedback? Some people like the sandwich, massage me a little bit that tell me and tell me gently? Some people like me, I'm an Israeli? Or if you're Dutch, we want just to know what's going on, don't get around. So a good question to ask is how would you like to have your feedback and be holding feedback is like I Kido. I keto doesn't have any offensive move, it just have a defensive move. So you take someone that needs to do something else, and you put him in the right place, but you make sure that person doesn't fall on the ground. Because if they fell to the ground, that is criticism. If you were effective, and that person takes your messages and do something, and you help them to do the things the way that they need to do, then it's feedback. That's a difference. Criticism puts you down, feedback puts you up. And you're right. 100% and RIA is the way you do it. And adopted because different people need it in a different and you also need to do the timing, right. Sometimes the timing sucks, that's not the time to give feedback. It's time to support. Yeah, right. I like that. Check. Any, any? I found? I find the the, the, that's the gap that's hard to fill. Right? I mean, it's the gap between high performance and expecting a lot from your team. And then there's this there's this kind of, I'm going to be using another term we have. But Neverland not not hypocrisy, but I kind of condescension, right? It's it's a, you know, you, you, you, you you, you give room for lack of performance, you don't point out these things. And I, I just, I just maybe what it was I just brought up in a in an environment where I was thinking about just truly high performance, right, I want to get I want to get the best, high end performance of all together. I mean, I mean, it's something I left behind, I took it took a while for me to detox myself on that. But you know, I kind of, I think I feel for the for the person who has really high standards, who would just like to have a kind of filter where people who have the same high standards come in, and maybe maybe design an environment where they go like, you know, okay, this is this is the high performance room. And if you don't feel it today, don't come in. I can tell you that you have to be careful. As a leader, you have to have boundaries, if you don't have boundaries, especially in some countries in Asia, if you give too many concession for the fourth grandmother that died this, this month, with a lot of compassion, you're going to end up with non performing team. So you have to have your boundaries. Boundaries are kind of kindness, if you don't put boundaries and people fall into a hole, because they did not know that that's a no no for you. You have to balance boundaries, with wisdom to know when you're going to drive someone to the wall, and then you're going to lose them. And what you do is the benevolent thing, for example, I had a guy working for me, and he was depressed for three months because he lost his girlfriend. And I had to weather it understanding that this is natural. And that person was the top performer for years for me because he loved the fact that I supported him during that time. So you need to sometimes let go consciously because you know that person needs that time. But he's a top performer. That isn't a temporary problem, and you need to take care of them. Yeah, that's it, but at the same time, in normal time for the boundaries. You don't go that back. Yeah. I think I think the point that you made earlier about treat everybody differently, right. The education system needs to evolve so that it's like individual lessons and my children are lucky To get an education that suits them individually, within a school environment, I know majority of children don't get that. In, in a work, like you were saying, ask people how they want feedback. And I think that's so critical, you know, manage people how they need to be managed, not how you want to manage, it's, you know, we've, we've sort of built a society that it's, we're always on the other side routers, you know, we put our views like I wrote a blog last week, you know, just be really be conscious of being in tune with the moment, it's not about what you want to say it's about what your audience wants to hear. And this is because a whole bunch of people have been running up on LinkedIn. Like, though they were finding a lot of the participation, very insensitive. And so then people were responding going, how dare you say that you've got no right to what say that I can't say whatever I want. But the actual reality of the message, which was getting lost on the responders was, this is doing you harm, it's harming your reputation, especially if your audience is all over what's going on in Ukraine, if that's what they're paying attention to, when you're doing top 10 tips to be a superstar on LinkedIn, you look disconnected from the reality that they're facing, and therefore you're gonna lose their respect, right? So we always kind of look at it from our point of view. And the change that needs to happen is how do we look at it from other people's point of views? absolutely unreal. And just want to tell everybody that listens, is that I'm no science, and I make mistakes, and everything that I told you, sometimes I fail to do because I'm human. And you need to forgive yourself as well and come clean. with other people. When you make that mistake. You can apologize to say I'm sorry, I should have given you this feedback in a different way. I made a mistake. And let me buy your lunch or dinner. That's, that's maturity. Don't expect yourself to be fantastic all the time, you're going to be triggered, you're going to have people with deadlines on to you. So just be kind to yourself as well. Yeah, the light yourself as well. Yeah, within with the climate crisis, we're all going to be if we need billions of people being imperfect, not billions of people being perfect, right. So you know that that pressure as well, like just so a final a final message to everybody out there is a lot of people really struggling with how to cope with this moment in time. And people obviously, are really struggling with mental health issues. How can people in the world help, you know, on social media and in person, how can they help lift people up at this time, any final delight message for them? I could say that I'm extremely lucky, I have a mentor. That is called Lenny rabbits. And he finds one of the way to delight is maybe not to be a jerk, the first thing that you're trying to do is not to hurt other people. And just find some comedies, wake up with a good song. If you want to have lists of happy songs for you that you could just message me and I'm going to give it to you or you're going to look for that. And, you know, everybody gonna give you tips how to be happy. But the first thing is trying not to be miserable. And the tip that they gave you the engine of delight. You know, when I was depressed when I lost everything. People told me that you, you can't love other people if you can't love yourself. And that's the biggest bullshit I ever heard. Sometimes, when you feel problems with yourself, the best thing that you could do is be of use to others contribute to other volunteer to do something good. You still have your kids, they still love you. So love them. You can control what you can control, focus on the good stuff that you could do. And when you are in the doing of love, you're surrounded by love, love will come to you. So stop listening to all the guys that criticize your personality. And you can criticize a mistake, but not your personality and just move on. You make mistakes, you learn you move on. Yeah. Like a trigger. I like I like the idea so much of you know, I've seen it so much as a cop out as people are trying to work themselves out. And so they they say they're incapable of doing the next thing. And I think it's one of those things where, you know, it does seem like the truth as a might be, the less the less wise truth is, you have to love yourself before you can love others. And I think that the wisdom is actually as you love others you begin Getting to love yourself. Because you you think, you know, hey, this is this is what I'm doing. I am Yeah, the whole loving yourself thing was always a struggle for me growing up because it's just seemed vain. So I struggled with the concept of it even for a long time. But I think the other thing that I've been thinking about a lot lately is mind your mind. And it's the words you say to yourself. But it's also the words that you say or think about others. And if you can clean that out, and anything that comes out or even a thought in your mind, if it's negative towards somebody else, try and stop it. Because I think poison says, I invented the terminology that says reverse gossiping. It's the art of selling good stuff behind somebody else's back. Right? And it's fabulous boomerang because when you say something good behind the back of someone, and that someone knows that someone, he says, You know, I just met AVI and he said such great thing about you. Now imagine who's going to get the business? Yeah, yeah. But yeah, but I think the words that we say to ourselves and to other people and even think about him, I think if we could get that under control, I think that's the path to kindness. You know, you know, I see so many people that their faces such as the beast, the business is on their face, and everything that comes out of their mouth. They're very difficult people to be around. They're not bad people. They've just they've had a hard path, right? And everything that comes out of their mouth is negative. And you're like, ah, you know, do you want to talk about losing energy when I'm in groups with people like that? I'm, I leave that. Energy Vampires. Yeah. But I don't, I don't think they want to be I just don't think they know how to escape. And I think if you can make a conscious decision to track what you say and what you think and if it's negative towards anybody, even yourself, that's what you've got to get under control. And look around look at the the beauty of this amazing world, right. Have you lost track of thought? In between muting, muting microphones and listening to yell I lost my own train of thought there. individually. Abby, thank you so much for sharing that. I really appreciate it. We just Yeah, that's cool. Any final bits of news that sort of jumped out to you for me, one of the ones was Zane Nadella, Satya Nadella son died this week. And obviously, he's the CEO of Microsoft today. And I know the way he's talked about his son, I've always found really quite beautiful. So I thought that was quite a poignant story that I thought was worth mentioning. And any any stories that made you laugh or cry or anything this week, other than than what we've talked about? Nothing. So I'm trying to think about the the, the podcast I was listening to, I was listening to a podcast about the world's or the USS worst maritime wartime disaster. And it's the sinking of the USS Indiana. And what a story it was, and how bizarre that a warship that had that much to do with the end of the Second World War was hardly even thought about. At the end of the Second World War, they had one final mission before they were sunk by a Japanese sub. And if, if you haven't heard about them before, you probably wouldn't have heard about them before. Because until quite recently, all they were were just one line. In history books, they were the warship that secretly delivered the parts for the atomic bomb that they used in Hiroshima. You know, they they landed in the Philippines. And when they came out of there, in the in the Nazis, they were sung by a Japanese sub. But there was so many stories about about leadership in that particular situation and the tragedy of war. And it's just the context of it struck me as and as in a ship that had 1200 men on board was sunk as a matter of course, and all in all, that was all everyone was doing was just a job. The, the submarine captain, you know, had been trying to do to further his career, and this was, this would have been a great, you know, a great thing on a resume really, you know, and in times of war. And he, you know, he went to, he went ahead and was successful with the sinking of this, this ship that was the length of two football fields. And in that one in that one, well, not in that one moment, but in the moment that followed in the days after, you know, basically about 900 Men perished But it was also about the the story that they had to be solved after that there was actually there was actually a court martial as they tried to blame this whole thing on someone. And they blamed it on the the the captain or not the captain, but the person, I think, was captain of the of the ship. And he was blamed for it. He was, you know, in at the trial, a very interesting witness came to speak on his behalf, in defense of him, and it was actually the Japanese Submariner, the captain and he said he was he was, he was actually saying that it wouldn't have made a difference. Because the main, the main thing that was being caught martial about was not not zigzagging in in the sea at that particular point, which is the kind of thing you do to avoid, you know, submarines. And he had actually gone ahead and done that, because he was told by his higher ups that it was a safe lane. And so it was late at night, and there was no need to do that. And so he did not do the zigzagging and that sort of, they thought allowed the submarine to attack it. And the the Japanese came forward to say that, you know, it wouldn't have made a difference. It's because we were just there at the right time. He was heading right for us. And we would have gotten I mean, that was that was the whole thing. And it was an interesting story about how yours on the the family's of the Japanese side as well as the American side would come together for the for the reunions, to commemorate the deaths and the lives of those people who survived. Maybe on that note, we should hope that the Russian and the Ukrainian will realize that that is the same this same family I think that the biggest worry from the intelligence that I read is that Putin is putting Chechen army that are not rushing to the front because they he's afraid that the Russian will have feelings. But I love the picture of the old lady that is giving a flower to a Russian soldier. And maybe that's the beginning of a hope. Yeah. Well, I hate I hate to be that guy. But you know that that story is actually a very feisty old woman who says you better swallow some seeds so that when you die flowers will grow out of you know it's it's feisty, but not quite the same story though. Maybe Maybe it's a different old lady you're talking about. I'm so one final piece of news. I'm off for a girls weekend in Bangkok this week. And when the article articles shared on the WhatsApp chat was mele, champagne bottles laced with fatal doses of the ecstasy. So keep an eye out for that. We won't be drinking my wine. I don't think this weekend. All right, what do you um, so I'm still watching the Formula One, Steve's about to go to Australia. So I'm gonna have two weeks where I can watch what I want on TV. But I am still enjoying it. It is amazing that this formula one series on Netflix, what are you guys watching, listening to reading? what's distracting you from the world at the moment? Well, that was a podcast, it was the against against all odds, I think it's called and it is if you just do it. It's the story of of the sinking of the Indiana. It's on Spotify, I believe. Right? EBI pension the time of two books, one of them is conversation with God. And one of them is about Ritz Carlton, and I have a pile of books that I need to reach out as dyslexic a page a day is what I can do. Yeah, yeah. Is this your first time on? Is this your first time reading Conversations with God? Oh, yes. And it's very slow, because I need to understand it. And sometimes I find myself reading the same page three, four or five times to just understand and and connect to it. But I definitely understand that when you come from a place of abundance. Even before I read the book, I was thinking, you know, if you're praying basically for love, for abundance, for success for health, then whatever your religion is, is just a language of speaking with God. And I thought that we all of us when we praying and asking for ourself, our God consumers, just give me give me and if God is any kind of apparent to us, what do parents want to they just want to be proud of you. They just want you to be happy. And if you come to your parents and you're grateful rather than asking, then that is what we call in Hebrew now, what is the joy and the sense of pride and satisfaction that you have when your kids are doing? Well, that's all. So, rewiring my mind instead of asking and praying for something for me to think for what I got. And well, instead of being good consumer, maybe to do a little bit of good stuff, and mentoring and so on, and trying to add value to others, and I'm totally, totally humbled to be in the presence of bigger givers and people that I look up to that through your view, with all the things that you've done. And as we say, in my country, I haven't started learning what you can afford to forget. Very kind. Alright, so let's wrap it up. Thank you so much to everyone for joining thanks to Evy. We didn't get the troll army attacking us this week, which was a bit of a relief. Even though Joe couldn't see what they were saying last week, some for some reason, you know that none of those comments that appeared in that feed have exist anywhere on any feed that I can find out beyond stream yard. So I don't even know where where they come from or where they are. So it's very bizarre. But anyway, I really appreciate everyone being here. I'm gonna upload this onto the podcast so people prefer to listen to the audio version. super grateful to Evie for joining us and sharing his wisdom to Joe. Tim, have a great time in Australia. I'm going to have a fun week, girls weekend. It's time to get out there and celebrate life a little bit but stay grateful. And we'll see you soon. All right. Bye. Thank you very much, guys.