The Know Show – coping with overwhelm in a time of madness

The news is intense, and many are switching off, unable to cope. The daily reminder of suffering hurts the soul and infects us with fear for the future. What will happen next? Will it boil up and consume us all, turning into World War III? And what if we go nuclear?

Hard HARD times to face - tense, anxious, and heart breakingly sad. How do we get ready for this? What can WE do? How can we manage our minds when we are being buffeted with violence? 

Because, of course, it’s not just war we are facing. Catastrophic environmental news is coming out, with important research reports seemingly released every week, not to mention, the AI revolution is going through it’s own interesting phase – will AI be our downfall?

To help us dig into this topic, we are delighted to welcome Archana Amlapure, who might be just the person you need to listen to right now. A lady with a deep background in technology and business, she realised this work wasn’t lighting her up, so she decided to become a yoga and wellness coach, and is the founder/director of Ojas Yoga n wellness, as well as author of the book " Health Happiness Harmony."

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Transcript

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Welcome to The No Show. My name is Andrew Edwards. And my name is Joe Augustine. And I wanna start with something on the show today. You know, it's 2023. It's November. We're still here. I think that's a good thing. Yeah. I think so. Take the small wins. What I'm reading. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. Take take the small wins. Listen. We're here as a show to do something which is quite impossible. We're trying to distract you from all the stuff that's going on at At 50 miles per hour and, you know, 17 different posts per minute, I'm gonna slow it down to a nice, comfortable one and a half hours Where we try and talk about what's happening in the world, some of the big problems, and some of the ideas that, you may not have, have thought about. So that's that's what the No Show is. It it's about diverse views as well. So Andrew does all the research. I show up with an opinion or two, And, we bring in a 3rd person usually as well to help us get a a real range of views and to help us dig into today's topic as well. We're delighted to welcome Archana Amlapure, who might be just the person we need to listen to right now. Our topic it's gonna be about overwhelm. She's a lady who was, deep in technology and business when she realized one day that what she really wanted to do was yoga and wellness. The founder and director of, Ojas Yoga and Wellness, and also the author of the book Health, happiness, harmony. Would you please welcome Archana? Hi, Archana. Hi. Hello. Thank you. So would you like to any would you like to add anything else to that? I mean, that's that's the, that's the the boilerplate intro. You know, how did how did you find yourself Moving from where you were to where you are now. Yeah, Joe. I think you have defined very well, I mean, this the sense of what, What is my transition? So, yeah, I think, around 10 years ago when I was I was in corporates, and that's when I 1st time in one of my, major project, I, felt the anxiety panic attack. And that's when somewhere there that time I got introduced to yoga and, that entirely changed my life. So I Started, I think, listening to myself more. I started taking care of myself more, understanding the triggers. And down the line, I felt that, it helped me so I can help others. So, eventually, I made that decision to, you know, move from that corporate, life to, becoming yoga analyst coach. So today, I have my studio in Singapore, in east side of Singapore. If you know, That's where I'm there. You you can find me anytime there. And, yes, that's that's all about Me in a sense, I guess. Nice. So so I imagine that you think a lot about peace or you try to stay in peaceful Thoughts and stay away from controversies and things like that. And so I'm gonna apologize ahead of time on behalf of Andrea who put you in this position. We're gonna take you through a rough hour or so as we talk about the world's ailments Yeah. In terms of geopolitics and the environment. Yeah. But we can't ignore it. You know? I know people wanna ignore it. People are stepping away. I I was listening to, I've been listening to this Book on a evangelical Christian, pastor journalists. He's all sorts of things. And basically, what what one of the message he's saying is, you know, we've talked about this before, Joe. 70% of the world Good people, normal people, but 30% of the world associate path, narcissists, Machiavellians, you know you know me. Right? And he's talking about this. So If a person person is incapable of having shame, they shouldn't be allowed into leadership roles. But unfortunately, The majority of people who move into leadership roles are those exact people. So if you know someone without shame, they might sit in the 30% bracket. They're the ones that will Destroy the Earth without thought. You know? So but we gotta face it. We need the 70% to rise up. We need to We need to claim the conversation back, and we need to, you know, get get get on top of the narrative and stepping away While I completely appreciate and respect it, I I think it's creating bigger problems. So that's why I that's why I'm doing what I'm doing, you know? Yep. Yep. And, you know, as as the world is doing what it does today, the the imagination thinks that the the shift in leadership is is, improving somewhat. I just had lunch with someone today, who's worked with 6,000 leaders over the last 17 years. And at every one of they they do a survey in terms of what what is the top 5 important things, and on the list as well is is of the options is the environment. And I was quite surprised to learn I I I predicted, first of all, that in the from from the last, maybe for for the 1st 12 years, maybe 15 years, that the environment maybe didn't show up at all and just thought maybe in the last 2 or 3 years that it's shown up as a as a Hop five. And, I was quite surprised to learn that, no, it hasn't. It's, it's it's it's still not making its way to the top of the list, Which is it's it's a bit of learning for me as well. I mean, it's not just about whether someone's a good person or a bad person. It's just that the the the priorities of business sometimes, takes you away from it. Yeah. Well, I think that's changing in some of the stats that are coming out now. Is that across Asia that the person works that you're talking about. Yeah. Asia. Asia. Regional work. Yeah. Regional work. Yeah. Yeah. And that doesn't surprise me because I think the Conversation is definitely not on the agenda as much as it needs to be. Yeah. And I think global reporting doesn't really sort of highlight, You know, what's really going on in this region either? So I think there's a lot of misses, and the global south is definitely that what's you know, there's tragedy on unfolding everywhere. You know? So Yeah. But anyway Yeah. Should we get stuck into the news? Yep. So, yes, this is where you'll have to take a deeper deeper breath and relax as we tell you more stories about what's happening in the world so far. Yeah. Well, I always Starts off like, though. Yeah. I always like to start off late. I I lost my 15 year old son this, last weekend as, That's starting off late? Yeah. Yeah. Well, lost him as far as he didn't leave his bedroom, due to Fortnite. So, basically, The game had its biggest day in history with 44,700,000 players, and they logged in for a total of a 102,000,000 hours. And this is because they went back to the original game, the island. I don't play Fortnite, so I don't understand what it's about. But anyway, there was a lot of excitement about it. Because of drought and extreme weather events, global wine production has fallen to a 62 year low in a report. And, I have quite a few friends that might be concerned about that. In the New York Times, we're gonna talk about, what's going on in Palestine, and Israel later. But an article discuss discusses that roughly a third of all buildings in Northern Gaza have been damaged All destroyed with thousands of buildings showing showing evidence of new damage just this last week. And this this the concern that I have for this It's when the hot season and the summer kicks in in Palestine, those people are going to cook. And, that's not even part of the conversation, you know, The the real implication that's gonna come down the line. We've heard over the summer of mass bleaching of coral reefs, and researchers have recorded mass bleaching of coral reefs in warming Florida oceans. They're calling it like a forest without trees. So this is happening across the northern hemisphere, and it's now reported between 90 95% of corals surveyed at 76 sites Across the Keys and the Dry Tortugas have shown signs of extreme bleaching. I was in the Keys and the Dry Tortugas, Got a few years ago now, and they're stunningly beautiful, so that breaks my heart. One of the big issues coming through in the US Is young voters are saying to Biden, make a ceasefire happen in in Gaza or we won't vote for you, which would basically guarantee Trump getting in. And, we've been hearing a lot about heat this year with predictions almost certain that 2023 is the hottest Year in a 125000 years. And in Asia, exceptional heat has demolished national records for November. So we're only getting hot in here, which, I don't think a lot of people quite realize. But thousands of calendar calendar day records have been set, And temperatures Wednesday Thursday soared to the highest November level ever observed in at least 8 countries, the Philippines, Tunisia, Bangladesh, Cyprus, Malta, South Korea, North Korea, and Mongolia. I'm in Thailand, and it's been blistering and really hot. What's it been like in Singapore? Do you feel hotter? Well, I I wanted to I wanna say that, you know, that, like, as you described back just now, right, I was thinking, you know, people who think about the frog being cooked in the pot, slowly. I'm quite aware as what's happening here as well because it is getting hotter and hotter. People think that things are kinda the same, but I used to be on radio doing a weather forecast in the morning. And I can tell you for a fact that things have really changed. But on the ground, it's we we're not aware of the changes. We don't we don't feel that. And I think as Singapore, we get to escape to an air condition kind of refuge almost, within a few steps. So if, you know, you you you get on a bus and you get some relief from the from the heat already. So I I I think people here don't quite, don't quite experience it the same way. Maybe they're too busy to to to realize it's happening to them. Yeah. You're protected in the air conditioned nation. Right? And then the finally on on CNBC, the title Biggest global threat since 19 thirties looms and every CEO is talking about it. JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon Said this may be the most dangerous time the world has seen in in decades, so geopolitics is in the boardroom. Any other news that's been sort of flying across and capturing your attention? If you're if you're all If you're all, strapped in, I have a long story for you. Not a not a long story, an Elon story, or two. Well, Elon Musk and, other AI doomies doomers, apparently, of course, a bit of a meltdown. And, actually, we we we we can first of all talk about The the the the thing that's happening here. Elon Musk's, biographer, so, no. It's Isaac Walterson. I think it's Isaac Walterson, I think it was. Same biographer Steve Jobs. And he talked about some of the things that are really high on on on on big on big on, the priorities for Elon Musk. Amongst many things like, colonizing space, one thing is to make sure that the robots don't take over the world. So the his his early readings of Isaac Asimov have had a deep impression on him. So his his, trepidation as spy is AI going out of Control. You know? Think hell from 2001, that sort of thing. That that that man has some concern. And so he has been one of the people very famously on a list, of scientists and business people, who wants to have a lot of restrictions put on AI. And I think you've heard recently as well, president Joe Biden, kind of, really pushed through an an AI, initiative as well Inspired by Mission Impossible, the movie, the most recent one, part one. So thanks, Tom Cruise, for that. But, at the same time, there are all kinds of conspiracy theories as well about talking about what the motivations behind the the warnings Regarding AI going out of control might be, and some of it might be as simple as, well, we're just trying to put our foot out so that those who are already running ahead have to slow down, so the rest of us can catch up. Elon does have a product which is gonna be about AI, and then it's rumored that he's about to Launched that as well. But, you know, Elon does have the sort of, you know, some people have the golden touch. He has the bronze touch. Twitter, is undergoing or having a bit of a resistance as well as much as he's been trying to push well, he's had he's had first of all, he's had, ownership of x.com for a long time, and he's been thinking of how to use it. So he likes x, spaced x. You know? And, finally, when he bought Twitter, he thought he finished the job of of of burning the place down by changing the name of it as well to x.com. So you've been in the news hearing everyone talking about, ex formerly known as turns out nobody else really agrees with him. And, one of the proofs, of that, was was when, Stephen King basically, you know, came out. And and and Elon has been always, Courting Steven to be on side with him. So so it was a bit of a bit of egg on his face when when, Stephen King's tweet, which basically just said, look, we business this x .com. I'm paraphrasing. This x.com nonsense has to stop, and he received many, many, many more, likes On the platform, then, Elon Musk's, you know, like, sort of re reply to that, to that tweet. And this is despite the fact that I think, Elon had a 150,000,000 more followers, than Stephen King. So, the people have spoken. They don't like x.com as the name. I don't know. We'll see what happens. We'll see we'll see if, Elon lives up to his name about making it, you know, like the the town the town, town square. Right? I mean, if if if enough people in town square say they don't like the name, you might change the name. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like it. Alright. So, last week, James Hansen and his team, released a report, which is called global warming in the pipeline. We just changed the order a little bit here, Archan, so it's, you're next. Anyway, the reset indicates that heating is accelerating. And while this has set off a disagreement in the scientific community arguing against acceleration, Hanson was first to alert the US government to the risk of climate change back in the eighties, and he does have a habit of being correct in the longer term. So we are in the early phase of a climate emergency according to the report, which were warns of a surge of heat already in the pipeline will rapidly push global temperatures Beyond what has been predicted, resulting in warming that exceeds 1.5 degrees Celsius above pre industrial levels in 2020, and that was not expected. And above 2 degrees Celsius before 2050, which feels conservative to me. We've we've I think I just saw a report that we've We're at 1.7 at the moment. So, but, basically, if you hear people talking about 1.5, according to Hanson, it's deader than a doornail, and the two degree limit can be rescued only with the help of purposeful actions. I was surprised to see him say that because he team He's incredibly realistic, but I'm sure he wrote it just to give people some hope, because, you know, that's Kind of when it's peer reviewed, there's a lot of pushback. So, you know, this is about the Earth and energy imbalances. There's too much sunlight going coming in. There's more sunlight coming in than it's going out, and what this results in is the equivalent of 400,000 Hiroshima atomic bombs Day. So, basically, it's a call for global and immediate action everywhere. Alright. So coming out of the US. Yeah. So there's this big news coming out of US. Says Ohio, audited, to enshrine abortion rights in its constitution on Tuesday. So marking is a major victory for pro choice Campaigners in the state, I think that's a great victory for for them. Because almost 57% of voters in that conservative leaning state Back to me, Joe. And I think this is their 7th such major to pass. So, but Ohio's major was widely seen as a toughest fight So far for abortion rights supporters, it was the 1st Republican led state to consider changing its constitution to explic explicitly guarantee the, the right. So I think this is a this is a big big news there. It happened after, like, after several, amendments. And this amendment will change the state's constitution to include production For abortion access, and it will establish an, individual right to one's own reproductive medical treatments, which includes An abortion, contraception, or miscarriage care. So I think this is gonna lead in another other states as well, The same. It it was a big one. I I I was we've been talking about it a lot since it first happened, and, the The fact that it was a Republican state obviously matters. And when it comes to the next US election, you know, the idea of putting abortion on the table As to be elected, you saw that in the debate. Yeah. It's be yeah. They've got a yeah. Joe, do you wanna join the next one? Seems we're out of order. Sure. Okay. Well, I'll get to the, part of my, my script there. So those of us, who are kinda proud of the whole Story of a big Singapore company doing well in, in Australia. This is where I think Singtel, set up, Optus, Ann, has become the 2nd largest, network in Australia. Well, they've had the 2nd largest failure of the network, or at least the the biggest failure of a network by the 2nd largest network. Optus had an outage, and according to reports, millions were affected by by this. And, of course, they would be because it it, People don't think so much about how the telephone industry or or telecom, works nowadays. It used to be very much about hardwired circuits, but Australia does have, also a lot of, reliance on on wireless communication. Australia was famously being so large. There are many projects that they've tried to actually to to to introduce, like, like the the the Australian broadband network. Despite all the best intentions, proved to be too big a task, even though they've been trying for years years to make it happen. So, anyway, Optus had a big outage, major outage, detected at 4 o'clock in the morning and only stalled sometime, I think 18 hours later. That took down a lot of other, sort of networks as well that relied on the Optus backbone for their operation. So a number of Other Internet providers and telcos were also the sub sub sub subsidiary, I suppose, or or smaller telcos went down. And the significant thing about this for me was all the emergency services as well that also went, went off the grid. All these were able. People weren't able to contact the emergency services. And it actually does, of it's it it really reflects, a problem sometimes with, infrastructure planning where, you know, you're trying to to to to put things out to to various players. And when you can have a system where the I mean, it's one thing for the, people like us to not be able to call on our network because our network is down. Emergency calls actually are designed to actually go on to any network because that's that's the way the the system is designed. But when the funnel coming into the hospitals actually is exclusively on 1 network, what happened actually in Australia was there were Hospitals and other kinds of facilities where there was emergency information and and contact that was required, that were literally cut off. So they they weren't Able to reach them. So that that proved to be a a rather big one. The good news, so to speak, is that it was not a cyberattack. The bad news means that screw up is somebody else's fault. And, I think they're they're trying to find out, who that might be or or or what that might be. But, yeah, that's the that's the big obvious news for Australians. Yeah. I'm wondering if the CEO is gonna survive this one after the last after the last breach, but, it sounds like it was deep, deep, deep in the system of massive failure. Steve was in Australia at the time for work, and he couldn't get a taxi. The trains were down. Like, it impacted everything. It's mass it's a massive failure. So Well, it's it's interconnectedness of of us all. Right? So that, you know, like, even if one small part of it is just on that particular, you know, network, then nothing can go through. Hubs are broken. And, yeah, you're right. I mean, like, many many commercial entities tend to have 1 telco supplier for their main telco needs. You know, and and when it goes down, it goes down, and Bigley, as someone we know might say. Yes. Indeed. Alright. I'm gonna keep going with the environment, and everything's gonna be in the weekend reads, which I publish tomorrow. So 2 other environment reports that I think are really worth, paying attention to. And I know that people find this incredibly alarming, but if we don't start facing up to this and addressing it And getting ready for it, we're gonna be in trouble. So in the Guardian, everything is parched. Amazon struggles with drought amid deforestation. And in climate council, Scientists call code blue emergency for Aussie oceans as off the scale marine heat looms. Excuse me. We've talked about this before. Ocean heat peaks February, March every year. So they're already extremely hot, and they're gonna get hotter, and we've obviously got our new at play. But for the 1st article in Brazil, this is a really sad article. It's like a it's a story that we knew that was gonna come our way, and I think everyone would be surprised that we have an unfolding tragedy on our hands already. So at this time of the year, if you have seen the Coverage. The rivers are empty, and they should be full. And it's blamed on large scale farming, the climate crisis, and weather events like El Nino. And it basically is saying that it could mean that Brazil is near the point of no return. So here hearing those words, near the point of no return. It concludes the Amazon cannot endure unless cows are replaced by trees, dust by plants, and smoke by rain. So think of those people who have No ex access. They're on the rivers. They've got no access to food, medication, emergency health care, or they're consuming the the the smoke. I Really wonder if at some point the people of Brazil are gonna stand up, and, you know, violence will increase Towards the farmers and the cows and maybe even the the the miners, because, you know, at some point, people are gonna say you're responsible for this because people are really suffering. And then the 2nd article about code blue emergency for Aussie oceans. So Australia's oceans are in crisis as Extreme heat punishes marine life and raises the specter of irreversible changes with profound consequences for all life on our planet. So this report reveals the immense amount of climate change induced heat currently being absorbed by the world's oceans. You gotta remember, Antarctica has has lost a lot of ice, so it's also absorb absorbing more heat, especially as the summer summertime is coming. Right? But it's it's the equivalent to boiling the Sydney Harbour. If you've ever been to Sydney, you know how big it is. Every 8 minutes. It's phenomenal that those sort of when you sort of visualise that. So report author doctor, Simon Bradshaw said, as our climate changes driven by rampant burning of coal, oil, and gas, our seas are Forming before our eyes. More frequent and severe marine heatwaves are pushing coral reefs to the brink. Ice sheets are melting at an alarming rate. Ocean currents are slowing and seas are rising. The climate crisis is also an ocean crisis. And, you know, beyond The Great Barrier Reef, which is obviously at massive risk right now with this increase, the whole great southern reef is at risk. As we saw the whole northern summer northern reef Being, being bleached through through the northern summer here, some summertime. So I other devastation is expected, and I personally believe That we are gonna see or we are gonna lose the Great Barrier Reef this year or a very large chunk of it, and it's not gonna be a bleaching event. It's gonna be Killing off event, and, that's extremely concerning. And the ramifications are just so huge, so We're getting close. Ochana, Bangladesh. Yes. Yeah. So I think even I'm following this news. So there had been deadly Bangladesh between, the government industry workers and police over the pay. The government announced on Tuesday that minimum wage, would Right. 56% to which is equivalent to $114 a month from December, which is the 1st increase in 5 years, and I think, the industry workers are asking for more, the increase in wages. So including factory owners in Bangladesh are asking clients that include H&M to help them To pay for almost 60% government mandated hike in wages, aware, aware that weaker sales might time their, efforts. So low wages have helped Bangladesh so far become world's largest garment exporters. After China, we see a lot of clothes from coming Made in Bangladesh. And it has been an industry that has helped lift millions out of poverty in country. But today, this, fuel and power prices have added to expiring cost of living for For people there, I think, even we are somewhere, we are facing that inflow inflation here as well, but I think they are on their highest point. So Bangladesh is home to more than 4,000 factories that supply global brands, Which, includes, like, Zara, Lululemon, and all most Most, big brands. The challenge there is like most, makers of consumer goods, fashion retailers are grappling with high inventories And, slowing down slowing global economy where shoppers in key markets are buying less as As a different yeah. I think that's what's, coming out from Bangladesh. So and I I we've just got to encourage everyone, you know, when we're Yeah. We're relishing in our fast fashion purchases and our stuff. If we're not paying enough for it, the people that are suffering are those women in those factories, and we've gotta be We've gotta start paying more. And we've gotta buy less, but we've gotta pay more for what we get so that we can take care of those people, you know, Those ladies. I I totally agree to that, and I I, at some point of time, I I want to do something on these terms where we can recycle these clothings and, you know, use that so that we somewhere, some some Small, help in environment change, climate change. So I think I totally agree that buying less, Paying more will help them. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. But the consumers have to do it. Otherwise, the brands aren't gonna pay it. Right? They're not gonna pay for it, and they should because, you know, during the pandemic, so many of these countries where which are predominantly it's women's work predominantly. So many of these countries were abandoned by the global brands, just abandoned. They just cut them off overnight. They had shipping containers on ports ready to go that that that the brand said we don't want them anymore. They didn't pay them for it. And, of course, for the women, that means, you know, the the destitution, basically. If they've got no salary, it puts them at greater risk of violence, puts them at greater risk of sex Sexual violence, slavery, you know you know, so I think it's time that we Yeah. We we we have to Design the fashion industry, and it needs to take care of the people who are suffering. Yeah. Joe, do you have a final one? Yeah. I do, actually. And, it sounds a little bit like the plot of, of an evil James Bond, cartel. Imagine if all the governments or or governments got together to try and solve climate crisis and they found themselves an adviser who could really tell them what to look at, in terms of what was important in fixing the world. And then it was discovered that these advisers were actually acting on behalf of the people who are responsible for polluting, as well. So, you know, while they were advising on what to do and guiding the agenda, they also had interests In fossil fuel. And not the stuff of fiction apparently. France 24.com reports that whistleblowers are telling us that McKinsey and Company are responsible for advising, the UN climate talks, also has, well, some some some Or should we should we call it a conflict of interest, I suppose, if we can put it that way, or There there are probably worse ways to say it. But in in in terms of who is who who they're serving. Right? I mean, you can't serve 2 masters and opposite sides of things. And, there's a pretty good chance that the one that pays much more money more often is gonna get, your attention as well, and, oh, that might just be the The fossil fuel industry. So, this definitely comes up. It is it's not a good look. And, of course, I think the the other The other companies who are not involved directly with this are also jumping on this. So we have to also take a a step back and go like, okay. How how much of this is also people Fanning the flames of it. I mean, it's it's a real problem. But at the same time, you know what? If you're not McKinsey and Company and you had a pitch or you had a you had a bid for that I click on track as well. You you you might have some glee on you as you as you said, Look at them. This is what they do. Oh, by the way, please hide all our fuel clients. Yeah. Exactly. Edelman, the the the the company that does the trust barometer, they're being pulled up for the same. But, obviously, McKinsey is getting, more attention negative attention because, of course, its role in the opioid crisis in the US has been a recent scandal. So a lot of the consulting groups are suffering Scandals at the moment. Right? Alright. So Yep. We've talked through lots and lots of different pieces of news, and we've actually gone quite quick. I'm I'm impressed. Well done, guys. But coping with overwhelm in a time of madness. So I as I said earlier, and I think a lot of people are really, really struggling to To face up to this time and to be part of this time, and so people are just really checking out, and I get it. It's not easy. It's a tough time, and as I shared in the short section, you know, the world's crisis is now in the boardroom, at least the geopolitical crisis, if not the climate crisis, that'll soon be there if it no matter what, it will be there. So the threat of the current moment is recognized, and we said couple of weeks ago that there's there's more war and conflict now than there was before World War 2, so it's a real threat. Right? But for the rest of us, beyond business, beyond work, beyond it all, it's It's it's the extreme suffering as well as the rage that we're seeing, you know, and it's it's brutal. You know? We're we're human beings. So In Palestine, more than 10,000 people have been killed since 7th 7th October, and even since that article was published, there would be more. That Gets broken down into more than 4,100 children, a 2,640 women. So We're if we're watching it, we're watching dead babies being pulled from the rubble, and that obviously has an effect on our minds, On our souls, on our humanity. Another story this week showed photos of an uncontacted tribe in Indonesia, whose tropical rainforest is being cut cut down to mine nickel, which is gonna be used in electric vehicles. And so part of the story is the people who were driving the trucks doing the deforestation are sort of being aggressive towards the the Tribal people, and they're running away because, you know, they've got a very basic lifestyle. But I don't think we can blame the drivers for having no heart because they're working low paid jobs in a region of the world where they're trying to feed their family, and they're probably you know, just like the Bangladeshi garment workers, they're struggling to survive. So But for the rest of us, we see the coverage, and it's heartbreaking. And then finally, I just wanna show you something because this is also misinformation. Yeah. There you go. So this popped up on Twitter just last night, and it's in the Daily Mail. Now if you're in the UK or you have lived there. You get what the Daily Mail is, its angle, but you also get how important this time of year is, especially, around the poppies, and I would suggest that poppy poppy sellers would be a sacred group of people in the in in the country. So, Of course, this sort of a headline gets outraged, but I saw this on Twitter. This this was shared by someone who was actually there, meters from the alleged attack. And the circle that you can see, if you can see it, is added by them showing where they were and the person who was supposed to be attacked. And he basically said that what is reported didn't happen. And this, of course, attracted a whole pile on of hate, but then a whole bunch of other people who were there and close to the to the supposed action also said it didn't happen. So articles like this have a purpose To create hatred and division, and it also supports the the UK government's pro Israel stance. But media coverage like this is destructive, and it feeds into the fear of the average citizen who doesn't know better and won't get access to this conversation that I got Access to. And it's the othering of people and blaming a small minority for the bigger challenges that we all face. So, you know, these are just a couple of examples that I pulled out. There's so many more that I could I could I could discuss. But, Achana, you know, when I saw your background, I thought it was a really great opportunity just to have a chat about this. You know? How can People cope with this intensity. How can people start getting their minds strong? Because we're not heading towards Easy times. We're heading towards challenging times, and they're gonna get more and more challenging. So any tips for our minds and hearts that we could take away? I I was I was actually before Chana answers, I was just gonna check-in with you and see how you're doing because, you know, you you stay away from this normally. So how how is your pulse and blood pressure doing right now? Kalkana. Oh, me? Yes. As I mentioned, I'm not a Very great, news follower. So most of the time, of course, I'm busy, but then when I get into the when I hear this, when I something comes, it it is really disheartening to see those child walking, that Small kids walking, you know, and it's all destroyed. They never know when you're going to get attacked. The fear is so So intense that, of course, we feel it from thousands of mile they are going through it. So it's a it's intensity is very high. For me, myself, I think what I feel from my side, what I can do individually is I just asked myself, can I control this? Can I have do I have any control over influence over this thing? Can I change anything out of this? I don't have anything. I can't do. I can't change anything. I can just sit here and pray for them. So I think this is this is what I teach, and tell my clients who comes with stress and anxiety that any situation beats we have different kinds of stress in our life. It's with, like, personal, professional, relationship, political, environmental. We go through a lot of stresses. So You were just seeing that situation. Can you control? Can you influence that situation? Do you have that influence to change or, change that situation in any way. If you can, do it. Take that action. If you can't, I think just change your thoughts. Change the way you think and, look at the situation. So I think in this, the Palestine, this war, whatever going on, I think at individual level, we I can't do anything, so I just pray and sit there this this condition. I mean, the problem will solve. I I don't know this how long it will take, but at least just pray for those lives there. It's what in my hand. I think that is, great way to to manage anxiety or that feeling of, restlessness, feeling of, unable to do anything. It's Like like, you know, you're not able to you can't do anything there. Yeah. So if I am. That's that's the take. I I take. Yeah. I I wonder if that would also help with the that sort of sense of hopelessness that people feel, you know? Yeah. Because hope hopelessness is such a A burden that people are experiencing in the world right now. Would would would that sort of do you think that would help with that? Or I mean, to me, it's like speaking up if you can, being part of the protest movements. You know, we're demanding governments Approach this in a different way. You know, we've seen some interesting coverage coming out of the EU. There's there's a change of message from A 100% behind. Whatever Israel wants to do to protect itself, go for it to it's time to it's time to stop. It's time to Calm this down and, make sure that the the civilians are protected. So, I mean, there's a big shift, and and I think that's the other thing about these things. I mean, we're not even talking about Russia and Ukraine anymore, which is still still ongoing. Right? And we know that. But, how much Changes over it's a short period of time, but there's a lot of things happening. There's a lot of momentum happening. Political posturing is evolving. So giving it time and space as well, I think, is important. You know, is Israel historically does Finish its wars relatively quickly. I mean, it doesn't hang around for 20 years like the United States does. Right? In a 6 day wars, you know, those sort of things. So it gets in and it gets out As quickly as you can. You're not sure what it's gonna do next year. Is talking about keeping boots on the ground, but give it time to evolve. But, yeah, just Thoughts on hopelessness dealing with that? Yeah. I think 2 things. What sorry, Joe. You wanna say something? Well, I was I was I was just saying, I mean, today, this was, the topic that basically occupied much of lunch today with with a friend with with deep connections, to the the situation. You know, Israel is facing a time right now where they have Tried it a different way many times over, and then to have what happened happen, in in the way it did, it it was very, very unsettling, you know, definitely on an emotional basis. And in terms of, you know, you you even it's a it's a kind of twist, not of the plot, but really of of of the knife, if you can imagine this. It it it it was It was far more gruesome than most people could imagine would happen in real life today. I've only heard descriptions of the videos, and I'm not Even I'm I'm not the kind of person who could even look and and and and and see what that is. And It's so so Israel is in a situation where they've tried it one way before. They've had these short term, wars. So they've gone in and settled and and and and and and then come out again. But they've never really fully quashed The the the the problem. So they've always left embers behind and the embers flare up again. And, you know, in terms of a psyche, it's it's not just, we don't quite like you. It's actually in the Education that they receive as well where they go, you know, the the agenda is the eradication, of the state of Israel. It's it's not and, you know, and and in context, I can they can wear wear pretty heavy on the mind because, You know, it was very hard for me to try and defend, what I understood In terms of how people could see themselves, siding with Palestine. Right? So it's just keeping in mind, I'm across the the The table from someone who probably has had who who's got someone in that in that situation. Like, they they talk about it being the 911 for Israel. It means that, you know, that there's a good chance any Israeli has had someone in the area and may have been related to to the to the violence that occurred. And to have it happen in that fashion under the circumstances, it's not as simple as people look at, it from the outside. I I I I I this is gonna be a little bit of a long one, but I promise you that this is gonna it's gonna go somewhere. Do do you remember Fatal Attraction, the movie? Long time. Yeah. I haven't watched it for a long time, but yeah. Okay. Well, at at the end of the movie, essentially, Glenn Close, goes full cycle, and, I mean, it's it's it's I think it's safe enough to give this without a spoiler alert. She gets Killed ultimately as she gets she go really goes way too far, as far as the story is going. And and Michael Douglas, is a man who makes, and an an unfortunate mistake, some bad choices, and and to the wrong person. Right? So as they were developing that movie, they kept they kept showing it to test audiences. And they and for for whatever just they they just could not make it happen so that in the end when She was killed that the audience felt a sense of relief. They actually felt that they had seen a woman being wrong, and she was right. She was actually right to be to feel the way she did, and and and they sided with her. But that was all not the story they were trying to tell. The story we're trying to tell was about this person, you know, who who wound up the way they did. So they had to create a scene somewhere along the way to make a change for the audience. And I don't know if you remember this, but it was one of the scenes that made the audience gasp when I was watching it. And that's where the pet rabbit disappears, And then there's a boiling pot. And then through storytelling, you realize that the pet rabbit's in the pot, and she put it in there. Right? Mhmm. That was the key To having having her being seen as the villain in in in the story. Right? So what Israel, Palestine, Europe, the rest the the rest of the world right now has is they are in a situation where they've seen One version of the story that they have consumed and told themselves over time, for many in the world, Palestine has been repressed, occupied, all all those things which would make someone you know, because if if you hear those stories, you could feel like, I would I wouldn't feel great about that kind of situation as well. I wouldn't feel great about having to cross, the border under scrutiny. You suspect me. You you automatically think that I I have of ill intentions. You you you wouldn't feel good about that. So you can you can kinda relay under those circumstances that that's how, that that's why Israel's reaction might be too too much. But the reality is and then, again, Even though I was given the links, those videos are not available to be seen on on on on Facebook anymore. They've been removed. We're not able to see we're we're not able to see the rabbit being cooked. We're not being able to see the pet rabbit being taken and killed because That's what the Israelis are are are facing. When when you see, it's just the the the the description is just It's just it's just crazy enough. But, one of the famous videos that's going around is a is a is a music festival where it's a it's a drone It's a drawn picture of a music festival where it looks like, in the 1st look, that everyone is just sleeping. And it's just it it it is carnage. It is, people frozen where they were killed. And It's it's not sparse. It's a it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a dense field of corpses. And and you think about that, and and then and then that's one of the mild ones. So, you know No. Exactly. The rabbit video hasn't been seen. Yeah. Right. The I I like that, analogy. It's a rabbit video. It's, yeah, it's it's unbelievably complex. It goes back a long way. The simplification that we're seeing in the media coverage and and people's opinions, I think we're missing so many layers to this, and we need to sit back and Give you know, because you're talking about Palestine, but the enemy is Hamas. It's not Palestine, and and that's What a lot of people are up in arms about, right, because the Palestinians and 50% of them are children and, you know, the the amount of pregnant women who are just They're giving birth every single day. Right? So it's it's it's it's it's that carnage, but there's this other side of this brutality. And you're right. And, you know, I had to say to my my boys when it first broke out, please stay away from the videos on social media. You don't need to see that. It's not good for your soul. If you wanna talk about it anytime, you know so, you know, protecting ourselves, protecting our kids, I think is is important. Chandler, what are your thoughts after all of after this? Sorry, Jake. Did you wanna add something? Well, I just wanted to add, you know, like, a a lot of the Strife in the world, can't be attributed to a foreign force or or or some large force from outside of yourselves being responsible for it. So, like, you know, we we look around Asia. There there are lots of communities which are disadvantaged or they don't you know, I mean, I think that life is tough In in quite a bit of Asia. But you can't blame somebody else for it. And there's the contrast of it where life is much better for them. I mean, like, Israel's one of the top 10 economies in the world. It means that there are kinda a number of people who are doing really well. And yet at the same time, you know, you you you live a life which is, ostensibly, it's it's it's it's it owns you know, I'm all this is gonna ruffle some feathers, but It it's, it's it's it's kind of a, like, a, like, a, like, a, like, a loosely held together prison in terms of security and and and then what you to do from day to day. So, you know, that's the kind of tension everyone. Right? Yeah. That was there. I don't trust you. You don't trust me. We we thought we could trust you with this, and now you can't. You know? And and now what's gonna happen out of this, is the great unknown. And then there's a rage that those videos would have caused. It's it's, I I I can't imagine. And, I mean, that that, Yeah. I couldn't I I didn't understand at first why people were were were flying, you know, back to Israel to to defend. When when you see when you see that, you realize why. Yeah. Absolutely. Oh, but I but I can also see the Palestinian point of view. I mean, it's It it it was made to go off. There's there's, without doubt, there's mismanagement of of of the whole situation. And, I I think Benjamin Netanyahu is is is Possibly one of I mean, the the the in terms of people I know from from Israeli politics, probably the worst person to have in charge of this Particular situation right now. Yep. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, I think when I think, you know, the whole siding So to me, there's 2 two wrongs in this story, Hamas for and what they did in the brutal attack and Netanyahu and the right wing government, you know, they are extreme. And he he has to make that extreme wing of his party happy Or he won't be able to be leader, and the fact that he's still a leader is amazing to me, you know, considering all the stuff he's been getting up to. And the country's been up in protest against him all year. You know, it's he's not a beloved leader, you know, doing what the people want, but Israel has an ability to unite when it needs to unite as a nation. And, it's something quite remarkable about the country as as a nation, I find. They unite. You know? But there's no winners here. Anyway, let's let's hand it over to how we manage Yeah. The mental burden. I know this, conversation is very intense, and, it's part of every party and Sometime down the line in the in the party, we discuss about this. In WhatsApp group, we discuss about this. When we meet, we discuss about this. But I I think sometimes that what can I do? You know, not this. Even in my home country, there are, like, religious, The fights over religion and, you know, protests and every day some news, and we just discuss and we just talk about it and if he had so I think for sensitive people, like, even as you said, even I started watching, news and there was this A small child crying and the temperature around. I could not watch. I could not continue with that news. I just immediately, you know, switched the channel. So, for the sensitive people like me, I think I what I do is I restrict to keep my sanity, I restrict news. I've even people who read news, I think what I would say is, a check source of news there because It's so much as you just mentioned one of the news here. You know, sometimes it's not true what we are seeing. So, Seeing the source of news, is it correct? Is it are they showing the the real correct news? It's also helps keeping hope alive. I think, just keeping that positive mindset that something will change and, the political situation will change and this will end soon. I I'm just talking about from my own individual standpoints that this is what I will do To keep my sanity, keep my mental health. Yeah. Alright. So, I think, you know, I well well well, I absolutely agree. I also believe that we need to rise up now, so we can't sit back anymore. We have to rise up and demand change. So, I think everyone does need to get a grasp on how to cope with these challenging times, and and people like our channel can really help with that, with their with the yoga practices, with with with the ideas that you teach. But I think it's also important that we get ready to support people who don't have the strength to face challenging times. So, Institutionally, our governments across the world are cutting back on services which will help with mental the mental health crisis, and I think that's gonna have huge ramifications across across societies around the world. So we need to start sending the alarm and getting those, getting those things in place. So my guidance is if you have knowledge or skills in this space, someone like like O'Connor does, please share it on social media, through articles, videos, podcasts, however you you'd like to communicate, let's get the word out because mental health is already a huge issue, and it's gonna get bigger. So that's one thing. But there's some there's some philosophies out there that I I've always resonated with, and I thought it might be worth sharing sharing them. So the first is stoicism. In its modern usage, it refers to a person who is indifferent To pleasure, joy, as well as sorrow or pain. Now that doesn't sound very nice, does it? So but Sounds like new now, I think. Yeah. Right. No. You're right. Traditionally, it's a philosophy designed to make us more resilient, Happier, more virtuous, and more wise, and I really recommend doing some research into the philosophy behind stoicism because one of its tenants is to be emotionless. Now not everyone is capable of being emotionless, but This is definitely something that I do when I'm tracking trying to take on board, the worst news in the world, which I'm doing every single day no matter what. And, of course, I can't be successful at being emotionless all the time. It gets in. It it it hurts. I have Days, weeks, sometimes when I'm really low, but I but I try to be emotionless about it. And so, basically, what I'm doing is I'm detaching from what I'm reading, so I could probably watch some of those videos, and I'm sensitive too. Right? But I could probably watch those videos more than most. But if I can't be emotionless And also if I can't be stoic, I can't do it. But this also moves to another field, which is Zen Buddhism, which I'm sure our channel will know all about, but specifically, the art of detachment. So I believe we could all learn a lot from these sort of ancient ideas and definitely recommend, so, Zen Buddhism, the art of detachment and stoicism and just really understanding what the philosophy is about, and just start to Practice some of the exercises that they recommend so that you can start to take care of your own mental health because I think we're gonna have to do that for ourselves as well. I I I think we're this is just my my view, and Forgive me if if it ruffles feathers. I should put a trigger warning on this, I suppose. I I I think what we are Becoming is selfish, in a way that that we we we we justify someone's selfish behavior in terms of our emotional energy. We are saying to ourselves, start with number 1, look after yourself. And and and and I think people forget that that's not the end of the sentence. It's Yeah. Right. Do that so you can help others so that you can be to others. You you can do much more for yourself. Right? And and I and I think what what happens in the world is someone's people Always stop reading before the end of the sentence, and they they become selfish as in, like, I'm gonna look after my own energy. Now this drama is not for me to deal I'm not gonna deal with it. And then you and then they stop being the person they are supposed to be in the family, in the relationship, you know, because that is is is what makes us special. We we we feel what other people feel, and we can do something about it. We can we can try and do something about it. So even even things like stoicism or or or zen, being zen about things, there's a different ways to deal to to deal with, emotions. And I and I think stoicism is while while the the the the state you're trying to achieve is not to be emotional, as you react to things, it's it's about being able to to to to to step back and and and judge things. And, actually, as a rather stoic person myself, it just means that I'm able to tolerate a lot more, which is detrimental because, you know, I I'm I'm I I I, I every now and then, I'll catch myself and go like, I'm in a lot of pain all the time, and and yet I'm still Functioning, and I'm not, you know, having a little pity party for myself. And then this and and then and the other thing the other idea of the of the, I guess, the the the Buddhist thing is, like, well, don't don't Don't just, don't ignore emotions, but experience it and then step aside and watch it and observe it. You know? And that's another thing as well. Just let let it process outside of yourself. You're gonna be there in the moment, feel it, and then try and step away from it, And then observe it, be curious, and you can have a you and then and it'll it'll pass. It won't, it won't overwhelm you. But, yeah, I I I really I've I I really want, this idea to go. It's like don't don't You you really have to listen to the whole Whitney Houston song and realize that, you know, It's yes. It's the greatest level of all to look after yourself, but it's not because you wanna be by yourself. No. But but the but but the point of taking care of your own mental health so you you can't take care of others if you don't take care of yourself. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not gonna use the airplane oxygen thing because it's so I'm so sick of hearing it, but, Learning learning you're a bit like don't you say you know, learning how to and I think that's why we get on, Joe, is we're both emotionless really across Quite a wide range of things, but it doesn't mean we're not impacted. But we work hard to be that way because that it gives us objectivity. You can't stand back if you can't be objective. Right? And, I think people are driven by their emotions, You know? And, and, you know, when you're sharing from an emotional place, which we all do at some point. Right? But when you're constantly sharing in an emotional place, you're not being objective and standing back, and you're not looking at the big picture, you're not looking at the whole story, you're not looking at the history. You know? Yeah. So I think yeah. So, Ajanna, go. As a resident expert Yeah. I totally agree. And, you know, all these practices definitely helps to manage your emotions better. And when you can manage your emotions better so I think, All these things will not, impact you negatively. I mean, of course, you know, you're here. You are there. You, listen to this, news, but it will not impact you in a negative way of, and I think as Jules said, We have to, if you can, if it is in your, capacity, do something about it, Do something, with that situation to help in a small way. That will give you, I think, more strength and resilience that, yes, I can do. I can be part of this change. So that is, one thing, but I think personally to take care and be resilient and be, be emotionally balanced and, stable. A few things what's everyone can do, of course, taking care of oneself and taking care of community or society as well. So, be in the society, be in the group of friends where you can share and talk to people Without being judged and without be without judging others, I think that's when the real communication happens. And I think that is the, base Of being open and being able to talk freely. Because I think there are a lot of people who are not able to talk about their emotions, And that's when it leads to lot of, health condition, which I see in my book. Loneliness and this social media Not only Hughes, but then there are other things as well in social media. So, that is one thing. So I think having I'll just list down what I know, what helps me, and what helps for my client is having a routine, for oneself, like, taking care of your mind, your body, and emotions. Like for your body, it can be exercise, walking, Yoga. For mind, your thoughts, your emotions, it can be, like, some mindfulness practices Like meditation or being in the nature, just spending that, you know, own time in the nature, taking care of, your emotion, like, you know, even breathing techniques will help to, manage your mind. Emotions again. Yes. The mindfulness meditation practices are very, very good. Again, For emotions, I think what it helped me and what it helps others as well is to practice gratitude and kindness. To practicing kindness to self and to others, is very important. And, this This one quote which I really love and I which I really I I follow that most of the time is, That when, you need when there is a choice between being right or being kind, we're always kind. So I think, that will solve many of the Of of the emotional problems, emotional triggers. Gratitude, I think it's been talked about now. We know. But Very few people follow this, especially in terms of negative situation where we see everything negative and we fail to, To bring the events to the positive things in our life where we think that there's nothing no positive thing happening. Nothing going well, but That's where these practices of gratitude really, really helps. So I think, being aware of our triggers every day, emotional Or even, I say that I'm sensitive, so I am I'm aware of my emotions. So being aware of that emotions is very important so that You are not reacting to any situation, and hence, it is not affecting other people. And how we can be aware is taking care of your mind body. Beat this routine and exercises for your own self. I think yeah. It's if you are aware in in your way, You are aware outside. So, you know, yoga, we say that it's not only about your physical health, mental health, and emotional health. It is also about your social and your spiritual wellness as well. So it's it's not just only you, but How you manage and how you keep your relations with others, in society, how you help, oh, Especially this this social, well-being is also very important. So I think There's a lot to talk about, but I think No. It's just great. So much. You know, it's I mean, you know, a lot of a lot of what you're saying sort of, you know, There's a lot more people paying attention to these sort of ideas today than there ever has been around the world. Right? But I think that there's potentially a lot of new Customers for this sort of information, who are struggling and have not ventured down these paths and don't understand what the benefits are. So I think, you know, being really open minded and, going out there and finding somebody, something, a community, whatever it is, an idea or practice that can help you Go for it. Do it. Self awareness really came through from what you said then, really understanding ourselves, understanding our emotions. But we're also living in a world that is manipulating us at the primal level, you know, the way we That way we feel get guilted into buying stuff that we don't need. It's all you know? So understanding how our brains work and how we're being consistently manipulated, I think, would be a really useful thing Do right now. But resilience, you mentioned resilience. I think if you can find any experts in that field who who can help you. Get out there and find them. There's loads of amazing people out there. I was just talking to Joni in South Africa. I can't I've just forgotten her name. Do you know Joni? She's a I spoke to her about resilience. Do you know Joanie? You know Mhmm. By that one. I'm I'm not sure. I'm I'm the worst person with names. Jo Joni Petty. She's in South Africa, and she connect with her on LinkedIn. She her topic's resilience, and she's amazing. And there's lots of people out there that talk about stuff like that. So Yeah. Joe, some thoughts before we move on to our final bit? Well, I I was I was thinking about algorithms, and not in the usual sense. Most people, when you think about algorithms, you think about what the computer does. Right? I I think what happens For us, we we we we develop a shorthand for how we react to things. And, actually, what we we do how we do actually lead our lives in the end is that we we develop algorithms. We we We figure out an algorithm for mom as she tells us to go and do something we don't like to do. We figure out an algorithm for dad if he does the same thing, and then it's all slightly different. I I was I was thinking in terms of, you know, in the interest of having something you can walk away with and and and do something good in your life today. Right? What would you suggest in terms of a of an algorithm? My emotions and being in touch, but all I know is at that moment, I feel bad. Right? What what will be a good I'll go a good series of things I could do that would just help change my state and maybe put me, in in a better course for for for self care. Sorry. Oh, China, this is really funny. Joe no. No. No. No. I want you to answer it. Joe in self care. Sorry. I'm just having a laugh. Oh, so yeah. Talking about algorithms, I as you mentioned, yes. It is there. So many times you feel bad and bad about a lot of things. And I think what I do, I can just tell for from my experiences. And even others can even implement that if it helps them. So I think I just pick up a phone and talk to my Talk to my friend. Well, the friend who is who I feel that I can share everything without she being judged to me, of my whatever I'm seeing that it's it's a crappiest thing I'm feeling. It's a very small thing for her, but it is a big thing for me. So I I I just talk the person where I feel better that I'm I've shared, and I'm just burdening I mean, taking out from my mind. One thing is that. Second thing is I think, if you are a music fan, you can just listen to music, which will refresh your mood at least at that point of time. Going for work, I think it's it is it is like a detaching from that emotions and taking break from those emotions or whatever you're going or doing something. So, like, for me, if I'm, if I teach if I go and teach yoga, so I forget everything. Or someone, who likes to dance, someone who likes to sing. I think if the or art for that matter, if you just do that, I think you You you forget, those things. So I think feeling bad what I realized, I feel bad most of the time For sports, what things what I realize is that it's it's all it's not the reality of the situation. It's it's the way you think. It's it's the way you're perceiving that Question. So most of the time, it is it is that. So I think, just taking a break, doing detaching from that moment Will help you now. Would would a would a playlist of would a playlist of cats falling off tables videos do as a as a meditation? I mean, does it does it really count? Could it could it work? I I know it makes me feel better. But, That's all medicine. Yes. Any any any music Which is good for you? Which which you like? Or cats. Yeah. No. No. It's good. But But I wanna say, right, it's time to get our mind strong. So let's Yeah. Go go out there and learn from the people who know this, the masters. Because they're all over the world. They've spent decades learning about these ideas. I mean, they go back thousands of years, a lot of these traditional ideas. Find something that's good for you so that you can get your mind strong, and then we need 70% of the world's population to rise up, Claim the global narrative and move forward in peace where we heal our world. So that's what I I think we need to do. So there's no Sitting back doing nothing from where I'm sitting. Unless you really, really can't, like, get that, you know, but but we need as many as we can to To join us Yep. Yep. To to rise up. So yeah. Yep. So that that's kind of what I've been noticing, you know, that there's almost There's almost, people are repulsed by the idea of a strong mind, You know, in terms of in terms of people who examine things, they they they they seem to to lean towards, emotional active, you know, and even a bigger label, the authentic people in the audience. And I go like, well, there's there's a bit more to it than just that. I You know, you can you can be authentically interested in all the details rather than just having the single dimension of your emotion based on what you all you only know at this point, instance. So, you know, I I I I I, I I'm I, personally, am a little bit Tired of, reactions like, hey, man, just chill, because sometimes you you have to do a little bit more than just Chill. I mean, yeah, you can be you can have ice you can have ice water in your veins, but you can, you know, you can you can do that while you're trying to stop the ship from sinking. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you got yeah. I I totally agree. I like that. You come up with some good ones today, Joe. Any final thoughts, No. I think, Yeah. Just self care is there. It's not selfish. Take care of yourself, but But be there for others as well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, Shanna, this is not this is not like gotcha. This is not meant to be a a gotcha question, but what's the most infuriating thing you hear about yoga? There's so many things, actually. I mean, it's changing, but, yeah, they say yoga is not for men. Yoga is religious. Yoga does not help you to lose weight. Yeah. So these are the things. You guys, yeah. So one thing I I really I really feel funny about is when they say that, come try yoga, they say, oh, I'm not flexible. But I think everybody knows yoga is for being becoming flexible. So that's when one needs to try When I'm talking only about asanas, the physical part of yoga. So, yeah, there's there's so many things I keep hearing about it. I don't I don't think I've ever I met 1 single person who loves yoga, who who who speaks negatively about it. Every everyone who does it absolutely adores it. So even my so to me, yoga's slow. Right? So, so I like swimming because I can thrash. I can go fast or, yeah. So, so for me, when all the times I try yoga, I I I kind of enjoy it, but it's slow. But that's good. That's good. But I haven't I haven't embraced it, but, I've never met a person who's into it that that You can you can try a little some dynamic version of you can try a little dynamic version of yoga. Nowadays, it is Vinyasa and yoga. There's so many. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot there's a lot of yoga around me here. So yeah. Alright. So We can't all be taking paying attention to the serious stuff all the time. So, what's been distracting you, TV, books, podcasts, whatever? It was do you wanna go first, Jay? Yeah. Sure. You you you remember the last few years we've been, we've been in sort of enthralled by My Ted Lasso and and and the the the stories that were told around that. Right? Have you watched the, the show Welcome to Wrexham? Oh, no. I think I've heard about it. Yep. Yeah. It's a it's a real live show. Ryan Reynolds And, this this works for the joke as well because everybody can't remember his name, Rob something or another. They they they come together. Rob is the the The fan who proposes the idea to Ryan Reynolds that they buy a football club, as in football, UK style, and it's a team in Wales. I won't I won't tell you too much more about this, but I just wanna tell you that if you thought, there there there's something about the way, you know, Ted Lasso is written, which has all that hot and everything that happens. But the difference here is that, this is a documentary, of course, with some editing, but the stories that that come out of this particular this particular town, Wrexham, and the football club that it has, are just amazing. It's just, It's, it's thrilling. It's heartwarming. And, when they rewind the the when they rewind the clock on American history 50 years from now when soccer is the real number one sport, which it actually is right now in in in America in terms of players of the game, they might roll it back to the the duo of Ted Lasso first who made people feel good about the idea, and then actually, this show, which is, welcome to Wrexham, which really takes you into the the minds of the of the fans. And and and and and maybe Americans for once would understand that a draw can be an exciting outcome. Cool. Okay. I've I've seen the stories, and, Ryan Reynolds is obviously getting a lot of media attention around it. But, China, what's keeping you, distracted? Oh, Farris, it's a Diwali time. So a lot of parties and eating and shopping happening. So Dancing. Yes. So planning for parties and food. So it's really, really I'm I'm really distracted out of the work. So, I'm talking about, soccer and football. I just watched, Beckham series, you know, came on Netflix. It is great. Quick Oh, yeah. But it's nice. I I loved it. Yeah. So yeah. I'm I'm Not a Netflix person, but I just started it started watching. I just finished it in 2 days, so I really loved it. So when's the, when's when's the big moment for Diwali? Is it this weekend? Yes. It's on Sunday. Sunday is our day. Yeah. And that's that's the color day when you everyone gets smothered in colorful dust that that comes out of your clothes? Because that's a different one. That's a different festival. That's holy I thought it was all at the same time. Okay. Yeah. So this This is Yeah. Yeah. The beautiful sort of candles and and sand sculptures outside of people's homes, and you come in and you share food, and It's the festival of London. Yeah. So yes. Yes. It's a it's light and firecrackers and gifts and Eating lots of sweets. Yeah. And so just because there's a lot of people that won't know, what's the what's the essence of what it's about? Oh, there's a mythological story, actually. So it's it's basically, celebrating the good Over at so, you know, it's very nice. Yeah. Ram and Ravana. There are 2 characters in Ravana Ramayan. So, Rao has killed Robin, which we had another festival, and it he comes back to his home Hometown. And that celebration of, his victory, that's where the whole town is lighted in lands and the eyes. And it's a celebration that he has come back home after his victory. So it's a victory over evil. Rama Ravana is a evil character. He's a bad character. So that's where we celebrate this. So we celebrate, like, in India, it's a whole town is with And Lance and, lanterns and everything. No. It's beautiful. If you have an opportunity to get if you get invited, go. It's beautiful. I think a lot of people because I think it's we can't it's, like, it's like Christmas. People still don't Yes. Include families. Alright. So couple of couple of final ones for me. I watched The Sly documentary on, Netflix, Sly Stallone. I grew I grew up with 2 brothers, so there was no way I could avoid Sylvester Stallone. I am not a Rambo or, you know, whatever whatever the other things he did fan. I watched them, of course. But, yeah, you know, He goes pretty deep at the end. He's, he's a big man that's learned life lessons, and he's not afraid of sharing them and the emotions that come with him. But there's another series on net oh, no. On Apple TV that's just come out, and it's called lessons in chemistry. Have either of you heard about it, seen it, read the book? No? No. Not yet. Alright. So, it's one of these ones that everyone's talking about. People have read the book, basically tell you don't read watch it, They haven't watched it. They've only read the book, so it's one of those sort of arguments that's starting to come up with. But it's it's it's so amazed like, there's so much about it that I loved. First of all, it's based in the 19 fifties. It's really true to the music of that time. So if you if if you're if you're like if you're like music, especially sort of jazz, You'll find it really cool. The casual daily sexism is Truthful. It felt truthful, and it was just it was unseen because it was just what what was happening. And so it's about this story of the of this female scientist who, doesn't doesn't get her PhD because the guy that Probably was gonna oversee her PhD, decides to rape her. And so then she go ends up at a young another university where she's a lab tech, but she's actually smarter than everybody else in the room. And it's the story of her, eventually being offered to run a TV show, a cooking show, where, again, the men in charge don't believe that the way she does things is is appealing, but she's she's she's speaking to the intelligence of females in America in the 19 fifties, and they respond to it and so do the men. So it's a really Amazing, powerful, beautiful show, but it's I love the honesty of telling the story at that time And not Yeah. Not make not trying to make it anything that it wasn't because it was like that back then. And I think sometimes looking back through Looking back at at history, honestly, we can see, oh, wow. We've come a long way, so it's kinda hopeful too. But, anyway, it's absolutely brilliant. I was completely absorbed, and I can't wait for the next Yep. Tonight, the next show comes out. So history, is it? What's the name? So lessons in chemistry is on, Apple TV and, Okay. Yeah. Lessons of chemistry. If if you like Stallone, there's a there's a there's a little bit of popcorn, content. If you if you could track it down, I'm not too sure where it I think it's Paramount, Paramount Plus that has its streaming. The family is Stallone. Okay. And that too is a very is a very interesting, thanks. I'm I'm sure a part of that would have been, touched on in terms of the the, the the documentary, but this is This is the reality show based on the Stallone family, and, I I I found it quite charming, actually. It's a it was kind of it it was Name of, the Kardashians with Italian family values. Well, then you're not selling it to me if you're mentioning the Kardashians. But, Well, I I I know, but it was charming. It was it it it's charming. It's not it's not, it's, I I don't think I rolled my eyes Once while I was I was watching the show, it was just about a dad trying to deal with not being the superstar that he used to be, but just being the dad Yeah. His family because he's he's overrun by women in his life, basically. Yeah. He's got 3 beautiful daughters, but he lost his son, quite young. I come they didn't really go into why the son passed away, but, that was the emotions of that came through. So Alright. I'll I'll I'll give it a while. Yeah. Alright, guys. Thanks for joining us. Phillip or I didn't get to comment, but, yeah, the trains were out. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for commenting. We'll see you all in a couple of weeks. And, Chana, thank you so much for joining us. I hope you enjoyed being here, and, thanks for your Andrea. For your wisdom. With a lovely conversation. Not that scary. Right? Yeah. It went well. Yeah. Cool. Alright. Ending the ending the stream. See you guys. Have a great weekend. Bye.