Uncommon Courage

The Know Show – theme, the importance of building strong relationships

February 25, 2022 Andrea T Edwards, Tim Wade, Joe Augustin, Lindsay Adams, Episode 46
Uncommon Courage
The Know Show – theme, the importance of building strong relationships
Show Notes Transcript

Welcome to The Know Show. This week we will be digging into the Ukraine situation of course, and we are thrilled to welcome Lindsay Adams, The Relationships Guy, and you are going to love Lindsay. He’s all about relationships. He speaks about it, has written books about it, and if you’ve ever met him, you’ll know he lives and breathes relationships, building them with impeccable finesse.

So we are going to discuss how to get into relationships quickly (lots of tips and ideas), as well as how to leverage relationships to get more business. We’ll talk about his book -  The DNA of Business Relationships - and he will leave us with some tips on how to break the ice in networking conversations. If this is not your favorite thing to do, you will find Lindsay’s insights invaluable. 

The Know Show is a Livestream held every Friday, where Andrea T Edwards, Tim Wade and Joe Augustin, with at least one special guest, review the news that’s getting everyone’s attention, as well as perhaps what requires our attention. We’ll talk about what it means to us, the world and we hope to inspire great conversations on the news that matters to all of us. 

The Know Show is based on Andrea T Edwards Weekend Reads, which are published every Saturday on andreatedwards.com, and covers the climate crisis, Covid 19, topical moments in the world, global politics, business, social issues and passion/humor/history. Join us. 

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All right, welcome to the no show. My name is Andrea Edwards. I'm Tim Wade. And my name is Joe Augustine. Welcome to a show that celebrates thinking and thinking about stuff. And the idea is that if you happen to come upon the show, and you've never really had the guts to carry on a conversation against someone who seems to have a lot to say, you leave this with a bit of stuff, this stuff to say, I kind of swallowed a word that came out all wrong. We also try to do this with our show as we bring on a guest each time that helps us to establish a bit of a theme. And today's theme is about relationships. So for that, I think you couldn't get someone else who is better suited than our guest today. He is someone who has been in this world about speaking well, for a tremendously long time. And in that time, he's formed a great deal of relationships, that he's leveraged that to teach companies and businesses how to work, the relationship, you know, to make it to make it work while I work in business. I'm sure he can do a much better introduction than I can because he's done it himself several times, I'm sure. But he's a relationship guy. And we'll be welcome to the panel this afternoon. Lindsey Adams. Hello there. I'm delighted to be here. Thank you for the invitation. And I would love to say that I've had a wonderful relationship with you all. Sadly, that's not true. No muss no one's Yes. Only joking. Only joking. Truth and diversity. I've seen Lindsay in action and he really is the master when it comes to building relationships. So it's good to have you here to us. It's here. He does way better shirts. Hey, what's wrong with this shirt? This is some time in the show to cover it there Lindsey Queenslander after? Oh, yeah. I live in Brisbane, Australia. On in Banja I live in Banja Manor. If you go to Google Maps and search for like been your many you'll find my house. You're like, you're like a ghost of Bunya. Manor. Correct. That's, that's exactly it. You have the ability to, you know, take your location on Google. And I thought, Well, what do I tag? You know, do I just put my address? No, I'm, I'm naming it button your manner. And actually, I have the privilege of living on an acre and a half or 6000 square meters. And surrounded by beautiful gum, trees, wildlife, koala birds. It's just beautiful. And at the moment, today, so far, in the last 24 hours, we've had 60 millimetres of rain that's almost three inches in the old sky, depending on where you're listening from. It's just raining, raining, raining. So coming down, I can water ski in my front yard as we speak, and could probably boogie board in the backyard. A pretty wet sort of summer and have a job. Is it spring there now? Yeah, it is. No, it's no, it's the end of summer. end of summer. So December, January. February is our summer and then we'll move into autumn as we call it. So it's still quite warm, though. It's very humid today. 120% humidity. It's probably only about 2829 degrees. But it's it's a really sticky Singapore day here. So it's probably I mean, maybe you guys sent the weather just solid feel at home talking to you guys. Yeah, it's quite nice to see you today I think. Yep. And of course, our Andrea's in Thailand. Yeah, we just got a big storm coming through from China on its way. So the boats have been warned off the ocean. And so we're expecting a bit of a wild and blustery weekend. So if this cuts out, the storms hit and the electricity is gone. So everybody listening in what we've just experienced is the first part of relationships where you talk about the weather. Interesting, because, excuse me, I'm just being coughing. I've lost my voice. Perfect. Excuse me. So one of the most important things about relationships, when you meet someone new is to find some common ground. And what's the common ground that we all have really today right here right now. It's the way that we you know, the first thing I said when I was raining here, Tim, you looked at citement Oh, it's all right here. And so you know a really great way to establishing relationship is just to find something common to talk about. That opens up the conversation and makes everyone feel comfortable. And then you you can leverage it from there. I always like shirt, didn't we? So we all agreed, we all found something in common, it was perfectly clear you insult team that explains my lack of relationships. Well, I was gonna say with Lindsey, when it comes to you, usually our conversations are quite common. But um, do you want to give everyone a bit more of an introduction to you, and you know, what you do and what you care about, oh, I'm not around the world, the relationships guide. Relationships underpin pretty much everything that we do in life. If you want to be a leader in an organization, you have to be in relationship with the people want to work in a great team, you've got to be in relationship with your team members, get on with them. Want us, if you're in sales, and you want to sell stuff, you've absolutely got to get into relationship with your prospect or customer. So it's pretty much the glue that holds society together. Sadly, in the northern hemisphere, at the moment, we're seeing a lot of tense relationships and overt relationships, which is just crazy what's going on. But in terms of the business world, relationships are the it's the oil or the glue that makes everything work. And so I work with organizations, with salespeople, with teams, helping them to work better together. And so understanding their individual differences, if you look, look on the screen, there's four very different people here for very different behavioral styles and personalities. And yet, we are all friends, and are able to work neatly together should we choose to. And that's, that's how it works in, you know, in organizations. And so we don't have to be best friends with the people that we work with, we just have to be able to work with them. And I guess that's one of the keys of, you know, building good relationships. So it is not rocket science. Absolutely. I've done a lot of writing around relationships, I've written a book about it. And I'm happy to bore you silly with, you know, the details of the book. But you know, really, it's, it's something that's very close to my heart and, and something that's really served me well in business. And that is the ability to connect with other people engage in conversation, and then leverage those conversations to either do business or extend, you know, the relationship in the way you choose. Well, we've got Bob middle stuff, he's come, he's, he's listening, and he said, everybody talks about the weather, but nobody ever does anything about it. So welcome, Bob. You know, and for those of you don't know, tell us a little bit about the Oh, am at the end of your name. Okay, thanks, Tim. I, in the Australia Day awards 2020, I was awarded a medal in the Order of Australia. I am, this is the fourth highest civil honor that you can receive in our country. And he was in recognition of the services that are given to the professional speaking community, in Australia and around the world. So I am, I've since learned the only speaker in the world that has been recognized by their government for services to the speaking industry. How do I know that? I was interviewed by a German speaker colleague for his podcast. And he said to me, Lindsey, do you know that you are the only speaker in the world to be recognized by their government? I said, really? How do you know that? And he said, I'm German. I researched it. And I had no idea. Now I've won. You know, lots of people have won lots of speakers awards, but no one's actually been acknowledged for their service by the government of their country. So it's a huge honor. And it's a very humbling humbling experience for me to be recognized. And there are many who've walked before me, and and given so much, and yet, I guess I was the lucky one to be nominated at that moment in, you know, that place in time. So pretty big government, it says, Thank you for your contribution to taxes, and for nation building, but it just is. But as far as Lindsey goes, like for all of us, we've all we've all seen his work, and it isn't a very, very worthy honor. You do. You're incredible the support you offer our community and you know, from the minute I met you not not only did we have a laugh, but you're you're always there to support the community. And so yeah, well deserved. I was super proud of you when you got that. Yeah. Lindsay Lindsay was the you're also the global president of the well, the president of the Global speakers Federation, which is the umbrella organization under which all the speaking associations, national speaking associations around the world from America to Africa to Australia, New Zealand, Asia, all across Asia, all around Europe, all of these Canada, all these, these associations are members of it. And you're the the global president of that, that umbrella body above it. So kudos you you certainly have demonstrated proud to serve the world and and remarkably nice chap as well. Yeah. And he's he's, he's the exciting one at the moment. For my sins. I am the president of the virtual Speakers Association International. So team, as you said, this global speakers Federation, it's the umbrella group. And under that there are 17 associations. 16 of those associations are based in a country. So we have 16, member based associations that are based in you know, as you said, across Europe, North America, Africa or Asia, whatever, the virtual speakers association exists for the other a 170 countries that do not have a resonance body of speakers, or an association in their country. And so, you know, we were trying really hard to be inclusive and bring everyone together around the world. And so, for any listeners who are here, who are, you know, budding speakers are already professional speakers, but don't belong to an association, there is a place for you. And if you belong to an association, of course, you're still welcome to come and hang out with other speaker bodies around the world in our association. So really exciting times. Looks like you'll have to keep a lookout for Lindsey and Metaverse will know he'd be wearing a blue shirt or a suit. I know that. Okay, so for those of you don't know what happens, usually this part of the show, we're talking about the news, some of the key things that have been happening in our world so that you are in the know. And then there's the second part to the show where we're going to talk a little bit about the theme for the day. So perhaps Andrew, do you want to get us stuck into some frozen news? Absolutely. So I always like to find a piece of news that makes us smile just begin with in the week commenced with the news that the country's cross country skier Remy Lindhome suffered a frozen penis at the Winter Olympics in Beijing and the story was talking about afterwards when he had to put a hate pack on to Thor, he's playing this out that it's an excruciating experience. So anyways, I was just wondering, how did that story make you three feel? Um, I'm glad that we don't have much snow in Australia. I shrunk away from it. I just thought was cool. Oh, god, you guys got to do better than that. took me back to a song. I think when I was at uni, or after they was called detachable penis. Anyone remember that song? Yeah, actually quite a good song. And the whole idea is that the little guy just hops off and wanders off. And, you know, does things during the night that the guy doesn't know about something. The sense I've got right now is I'm going to feeling the audience. And I think Bob is just watching us all on the edge of a slippery slope, shall we? Shall we back away from the going on? Yeah. But but that story is a real story. Because he they they shortened the event. It was a cross country skiing event, I think. And they shorten the event from 40 minutes or 40 or 50 minutes or an hour from an hour, I think to 40 minutes. And because the conditions were so cold, and instead of wearing Eskimo gear because they're in a race, they're wearing like cycling leotards and racing through the snow and they were worried about frostbite and things like that. A lot of a lot of them were covered up their face, but really had had challenges on their face as well. But this guy was was getting it in his in his Netherlands. out there and and as a result. I think he was finished, wasn't he? Yeah, it's yeah, it's always Scandinavian. Yep. Bob said he's been that cold and somebody else I can't say who you are. say G'day, Andrea, gentlemen, and Tim. So there we go. The second bam, there's the second piece of news moving away from Frozen penises is a little sad story. nightbird she was she came to fame with on America's Got Talent. She died of cancer this week. And I think she's a beautiful soul that I hope her message lives on. Because it's certainly a message The world needs to hear right now. Another story before we get stuck into the real meat of today. Apparently since Trump was voted out of power, Q anon has actually strengthened. So in March last year, 14% of Americans believed in it now it's 17%. And what's fascinating to me about this is there was so much about the US election that was linked to queueing on the didn't come to pass. So they actually predicted that it was going to start to fade away. So the idea that it's sort of come to strength. So there's three common beliefs with that. queuing on community 22% of Americans believe that a storm is coming. And that's how it's written storm. They're not wrong, there is a storm coming. I can see the clouds just outside the window 18% thing once more, what's the only thing is coming? Well, that you got to sort of think of an end of the world sort of scenario. And you know, they're not wrong. Like if we look at what's happening in global weather patterns. I don't percent think violence may be necessary to save the country. And 16% Hold the government media and financial worlds are controlled by Satan. Satan worshipping pedophiles. So that's always sort of the key message that we saw the pizza gate scandal and all that sort of stuff. So bit of a shame to see that we're not, we're not getting rid of some of that thinking it's getting, it's getting more and not not just in America globally. I would have loved to have, I would have loved to have. I've sort of been in the corner of the room when they got around the table to go, what are our values and behaviors? What What are the five words that best represent us? What's the vision and mission statement? And then they came up with, you know, what satanic pedophiles are running the world as one of them? Yep. Now, I'm, I have to question the veracity of the poll. This my my thinking right now, because I there's some other statistics that seem to say that Americans, quite a large number of them actually supporting the the mask mandate, it actually is something that that that surprise, it surprised me. The other thing that I heard about as well as in terms of the overall population, the number of people who want gun control, and that seems to be a high number. And this kind of kind of runs in in the face of this kind of research. I always wonder about the nature of the poll. And I'm wondering if the center of this poll might be people who answered their phone, or had a landline, you know, because part of the part of the polling or the the the culture of polling in the US has been largely based around landlines and people answering those landlines. So I'm just wondering out loud, if what we're discovering is, is not so much about how much of America believes that but just how many people who are in queue on on a queue or believe in queue and on actually have a landline? I'm hoping that, you know, sometimes a poll might be it also depends on the objective of the pollster and what sort of frenzy they want to turn up. Because, because if you said which of these do you think is most likely their belief? And you had, you know, this one, this one, this one, this one and Satan one, then then and the other three, go now they're probably not that it's probably the last one. Then you go well, 22% of people think that's it. I mean, it's just, I don't know it. Anyway, I so I'm now jumping on the job bandwagon of distrusting the poll. Um, we should start a Q anon Q anon. Or, more worrying is in the newspaper here in Brisbane today, there was a small article that said quoted Donald Trump who said that Putin was a genius for what he's doing at the minute and that if he was in power, of course, he wouldn't be game to across the border. Like, you know, and Q Anon, of course, support Trump. Well, it's reputed that their followers are big Trump supporters. So yeah, I mean, when you join those two together, it's quite worrying, or quite interesting. Yeah. Should we go how much of how much of Mexico is attempted to sort of claim independence and ask for American backing? Oh, they've offered to pay for the whole thing. Haven't you heard? Yeah, okay. Yeah. All right. cold cold back to 2016. Sorry about that. Alright, should we get stuck into the Ukraine situation? So it's a bit a bit of a deep and heavy one. And you know, so as of yesterday, we are at war. And it is considered the greatest risk to world peace since World War Two. From everything I've been reading, we definitely cannot underestimate what is happening and how it could escalate. So I'm, like, I'm sure you guys are saying there's a lot of panic, a lot of fear. A lot of people expressing opinions on social media. So you know, when we were talking about it last week, I don't think we were really able to nail down a reason like there's not one reason why this is happening. So this week, I sort of took a different approach to my research. I was really, really wide and far and I can't even include a lot of the stuff in my weekend reads because it was like, people's posts. On LinkedIn, or it was someone's comment on Twitter. And then I followed through the thread and just, I've just been trying to take onboard as many, many different perspectives as possible. One of the most interesting was a Finnish guy that was talking about Finland's history with Russia. And I learned a whole bunch of new stuff there. But what I'm hoping that we can do today is to really look at this from an endgame perspective, like, you know, what, what, how could this potentially ripple out and, and consume the whole world? Because that's obviously, the threat that we all face. And that's the threat, the threat we don't want to face. All right. So you are going to witness how I think, as I do this, but I really want to say to you guys just jump in, like I don't want to just sort of share what I've been thinking I, I wrote some of my points down, and because I just wanted to make sure I remembered everything. But I'm trying to bring in lots of different views. But probably I'm asking more questions than anything. So let's go. So first of all, we talked last week about the NATO angle. And his NATO provocation, the reason and it's definitely part of the story. The other perspective that's been shared a lot is whether it's a desire to create the next Russian or a new Russian Empire, or just potentially, we've got a megalomaniac in power. And as far as Putin is concerned, which a lot of Western people think that that's, you know, what's going on here. But I think one of the most interesting angles I came across was, is this, just the New World Order sort of starting to come? And this is the big first step that starts to get that happening. So did you guys read any of the new world order stuff that's been coming through? Yeah. I thought the man is better long ago, but I'm sorry, it was terrible, terrible joke. I, I've been I've been revisiting in terms of staying up to date and whatever, what have you and I've been guilty of that, you know, exhausting the, the sense around me. So people, people who are expressing themselves in one group, and then, you know, I find socially what I'm doing is I'm kind of absorbing where, where they're coming from as well. So I must say, I don't I don't have that widely read view that I should have right now, as I do the day show. Sorry about that. No, no, it's I mean, it's hard. I mean, Lindsey, did you want to say something? It's hard to capture at all? It's really, you know, I've been pondering this too. And, you know, when you look at the guy I'm putting himself is his Uber wealthy, he's got more money than he knows what to do with. He already rules a big chunk of territory. So what why the need to take over even more, I submit I struggle with, yeah, and you kind of think, well, you know, you're comparing with Hitler, who, you know, who was kind of had this vision that they were superior, and we're going to rule the world. And, you know, is that where he's coming from? I don't know, I'm my my tiny brain struggles to calculate what the hell's going through his mind to want to take this action. And that that comparison, like obviously, a lot of people are doing the Hitler comparison, but the grievances of the past are cropping up, and you know, so that's sort of coming up. But when it comes to the New World Order, you know, we've seen like, the US dollar is weakening, and there's a lot more content that's coming out and us it's coming out around that, you know, China's doing business in in local currency, or in the yuan, Japan and China are doing business in their own currencies. So the US, influence is definitely waking, weakening, especially the dollar, China's growth might is just growing in all ways across the world. And they've been doing it gradually, strategically. I don't think so quietly, but it doesn't seem like people are paying attention. And of course, the other side is the Russian advancement. As far as its weapons go, I think it was five or six years ago, there was, Putin announced these new rockets that could go from Russian soil to America. And, you know, so they've been really hunkering down on building, you know, that they've been taking a long time to get prepared for this moment in time. And I think we don't necessarily pay attention to that. It's a to me it's a democratic failure with with to short term thinking. But then the other side is Russians justification is saying basically, the West is morally bankrupt. And obviously, using the case of Iraq, Afghanistan, and you kind of read that and you're like, Yeah, I mean, he's not wrong, right? But that's obviously gonna run feathers. People don't want to believe that, you know, we're the good guys. They're the bad guys, you know, that sort of mentality. I've been watching a few of Putin's videos this week as well. One of the first signs that you can tell if a media is on side somebody is how they use the photography. So you will see a lot of pictures of Putin in in the media with like a distorted angry face. And that's a real PR spin of making the reader hate the person if the person looks nice. That means that you like the person right? So that's the First thing, but a lot of the videos, I think he's been coming across as very resolute. He's got a, he appears to have a backbone of steel. Is it a show? I don't know. Will he pull out the nukes? He said, consequences that have never been experienced in history if anyone gets involved. So you know, he is playing a game. That's a very dangerous game. And I think that's kind of like, you know, that kind of makes the world feel uneasy. But then you look at he's in a circle. It's very, very small. Obviously, he runs. He runs on fear. And did you say this, at least the video with the security minister where he was saying, Speak freely speak freely. Did you say though? That was just a little, little tiny one, have a look at it. It's a pretty, pretty fascinating little moment in time. But, you know, I've seen some elderly commentators thought leaders sort of sharing views of saying he looks unhinged. And I am not saying it. I'm not. I'm not saying unhinged when I watch him on video. It doesn't mean I'm right. I just I think he's, he's, he's strong. Well, in fact, you know, as much as I hate to admit it, I wonder whether Trump's comment about he's a genius. He's running a very clever strategy. Yeah. Maybe he is a genius. And, and maybe you know, me as a sane rational person doesn't want to acknowledge that genius, because what he's doing in my mind is wrong. Yeah. But when you look at his strategy, and again, I just go back to the Hitler example, I went to Germany, and I did a walking tour in Munich. And we, they took us to the beer halls, and they said, Hitler used to drink beer. And then when, when he detected the moment was right, he would jump up on the table and make rousing speeches. But he wanted to lower half cut, or half drunk before he made his rousing speech. And I thought, now that's clever, you know, strategic way to deliver your message to engender, you know, to create the groundswell. Now, again, sorry, another bad comparison to Hitler. But, but the guy's you know, he's strategically clever. That's for sure. And when I look at, you know, the destabilization that this is creating, but but also go and you mentioned the destabilization of the US dollar and China, and look at what China's doing in the Asian region, you know, there's my still trying to take over the whole region, you know, really rubbing sand in the eyes of Australia at the moment, in every way possible they can to kind of flex their muscle against us. In a kind of, you know, China has not publicly denounced Russia's Russia's action everyone else in the world has. So you know, it's a really interesting, when you look at the big plateau or the tableau of the world at the moment, it's we live in interesting times to quote, you know, a bad proverb. Yeah. Well, the The interesting thing about whether or not he's brought the people with him, so we know that the oligarchs and the real money, they're going to stick with him, because if he's victorious, they don't want to lose their power or their heads. But they obviously will choose their timing. Well, it to be when they oppose him, right. So I think you know, that's a, that's a game that's going to be played in the not too distant future, but other Russian people with him, and they are on his side. And this, this, to me is one of the most interesting things, because if they're not on his side, what can they do? I mean, they own they've only had the Russian view, there is no basically, there's no opposition in Russia, opposition protests are already being arrested and put in jail. And the media has been controlled for multiple years. But one of the other signs that came through is there's no jubilant celebrations on the street on on this invasion, like with Crimea in 2014. They're out in the street partying, but no shot was fired, then write reports state that the Russians are actually shocked that the war even started, they didn't believe the Western media or the narrative outside of Russia. So it's really come as a surprise in the country. And one reports is saying that the number one fear of the Russians is war. They're, you know, been in a state of war for such a long period of time, and I know the suffering that comes with it. So you know, the way I'm kind of keep looking at this is it's like he's like a gret Putin's like a grand chess master. And he's playing and he's made his first move. And will these people will he's people stand with him. And that's something that if they don't, if it ends up in a massive revolution, he's got such control of the country. I mean, you know that but it is potentially one limitation to his plans. The sanctions that obviously everybody's talking about right now, there's a Russian diplomat in the US. He basically said he couldn't remember a time when the country wasn't suffering from sanctions. So basically, it's not going to work. But they're alternate seven, they already Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's like they've spent, you know, he's basically spent decades building up Russia, with countries like China with economic relationships. And this is all part of the new world order that there is money in other parts of the world now. So, you know, I think it really weakens the West. The other interesting thing, Andrew, you're, as you're saying about do the Russian people support him, I've got very good friends who, who were privileged enough to travel to Russia, and they traveled extensively. And they said, inside of Russia, they don't know about the rest of the world, they don't care about the rest of the world. And, and they don't care about the US, they they believe you got to go to America. And and I've been told more than once a day by Americans, by American friends that they are the policemen of the world. And without us the world is not safe. And that was almost the same opinion that my friend that transmitted by the people he spoke to within Russia, that we are Russia, we are powerful. We don't care about America, because we're bigger and bolder. And we are the power in Europe. So it's a it's a really interesting one, isn't it? You wonder, you know, do they think that they're all powerful, and maybe, maybe this is just what they expect? Yeah, I'd like to speak up on behalf of the chess fans of the world and say that they might disagree with the idea of chess master. Because in chess, what you're doing is you're making moves with where the calculations and the outcomes are actually quite well known, you just got a few steps ahead of everybody else. I think Putin is actually a high stakes gambler with a lot of money right now. And he's, he's actually putting down big chips. He has a stockpile of money, which isn't, it's actually it's not his money. I mean, as a as a as a country that stockpile lots and lots of money. And this is where I was thinking about relationships and how it comes into it this in this as well. There is a the timing of this couldn't be couldn't be better in terms of the relationship with China, China has an objective to reach out and be the power that it wants to be. It's launched its digital yen as well, which makes the access to money, something that China can solve for Russia, because the the the, the main threat is that Russia can be held away from money by by not giving them access to US dollars. And if the yen comes in or digital yen comes in as the as the big solution, then what you have is, is a very convenient solution. But the power I say he's he's a high stakes gambler is he's not really sure. I think what's going to happen is that there's a kind of estimation of what is going to happen, what I can do, he relies on certain reactions or non reactions based on fear. And whether or not it's the kind of thing that you can that that the audience has a taste, or the other leaders of the world have a taste for. Right? What he's doing is forcing the hand, I think the other leaders were the choice, the ultimate choice that they've got to make, has to do with the CIA. And I'm gonna leave it at that. Yeah. Right. Back to that. I'm not so sure about high stakes gambler, the you don't, you don't immerse your forces and go in on a particular strike with a lot of targets, and military objectives and everything. You don't do that at a whim. Lot of that takes, you know, months of strategic planning and reconnaissance. You know, listening in making sure you've got the correct Intel information, where everything is monitoring movements, all of this sort of stuff. So the fact that, you know, he missed his troops and everyone's getting okay, you know, it's just a, it's just a show of force and everything else. I don't think so it was it was a planned attack all the time. He goes and visits China during the Winter Olympics has a chapter or whatever, he has a chat with. See, and, you know, wait, the laughter and boom, there we go. So there's, it's, and the other thing is, I mean, Ukraine's got a lot of tensions at the moment. So yesterday, I watched a interview with a professor in Perth. I was on CNN. And it went for about 24 minutes. And he was chatting away about all his thinking, and he was his name. I can't remember where he's actually from, but his name was Russian sounding. So it could have been anywhere around that region anywhere around the region. And but he wasn't pro Russia. He was just very matter of fact, I think he teaches at Westminster Elon University, he was, but it was fascinating to hear his well he is what's he's what had to have happened for this to happen. And then here's the objective of this. And we don't quite know that, but this would make a lot of sense. And he structured the whole thing really nicely. And then when you look at the politics inside Ukraine, at the moment, there was a lot of chest beating about, you know, I think we should re nuclearized ourselves and, and have nuclear weapons. And I think that was a, okay, we're going to stop that. And then there's areas of, of eastern Ukraine that were like, you know, we want to be independent. Now, we don't want to be part of Ukraine anymore. And of course, Putin then recognizes their independence. And that could then be we're gonna go in and secure that independence. Maybe that's the front or positioning or whatever it is, but skewed, obviously, well, and a reason to go in. But it sounds to me and then, and then they said something like Russia said something like we're going, we're not going in there to occupy territory. We're going in there to get rid of the Nazis. Yeah, is what somebody said. So, so. And the idea was that these nationalists that were, and for Russia, that's a very strong rhetoric, because of course, Germany had invaded Russia. So for them to go, we're gonna stop this from escalating out of control again, I mean, Ukraine is the second biggest country in Europe to, to Russia. It's huge. And so yeah, so I, I think there's been a lot of a lot of pushing and shoving it's, it's like a, did we talk about this last week about a little kid at boarding school, picking a fight with a big guy, or whatever, your little kid picking a fight with the big guy or whatever he's anyway, that seemed to be what it was, like, never had a conversation with somebody else. That seems to be what it was, like, where they're poking the the superpower, and saying, I think we know we need to put nuclear weapons and everything else here. But they're their whole day. They're like a bit of a fire break between Europe and Russia, in a lot of ways. And, and the fact that they're, they want to arm up, and they want to join NATO. I mean, as far as Russia is concerned that that is a threat to border security. And it's also against the deal that was signed when, when the you know, the whole iron curtain went down. And that's, you know, that's all part of the problem. The NATO is coming right up to the border by looking but some other things that have come up. So I, the Germans actually have said no to the Nordstrom to pipeline, and it's like a percentage of it left to finish. So this is interesting, right? So Germany's always sort of been against some some of the proposals by NATO because of its reliance on Russian gas. And now they're basically saying, Alright, we're done. So this is interesting, because obviously, in Germany at the moment, there are already gas shortages. So making making this move is a strong move by the German government. But also it opens up the door for them to produce sort of renewable energy and move away from from the whole reliance on Russian gas anyway. So that's another one. The other thing is will NATO move beyond just sanctions? So while the wars between the two countries, I think, you know, escalation may not happen? And well, we, we can see that it's not going to be good for the Ukrainian citizens, I think it's something to for all of us to really keep in mind that if this becomes a bigger thing, if more countries getting physically involved in this war, then that's when it can truly become world war three. So we need to sort of sort of really ask that question of ourselves, when our leaders aren't doing more is it to stop that potential. And obviously, if the US gets actively involved in this war, which, you know, they usually sort of, you know, a few years down the track before they actually put boots on the ground, that's when we're going to be looking at a much, much bigger situation. And that's when escalation will, will be frightening for the rest of the world. But, so going back to the chess moves, or gambling moves, I still think it's a chess move. But anyway, one is refugees. So I don't know if you saw yesterday, refugees are already starting to leave Ukraine and into Poland. And I think Putin is banking on the fact that Europe is refugee weary. Where this might be an incorrect assumption is that they're not refugees from the Middle East. They're European refugees. We need to get ready for Well, for a world that's going to be flooded with refugees anyway. So this potentially could be an opportunity for Europe to sort of take care of the refugees that may flood out, but I think Putin is banking on it. Not being too happy about the refugees, as we saw in the last few years. I mean, it's completely destabilized Europe, all of the refugees, especially flooding from Syria. So I think that's one the other one I think Putin's bank banking on a wall brewery world. I mean, we know that the US won't get involved in this in the short term other than, you know, speaking, sanctions, that sort of thing. But I think that's another thing that he's really banking on. Do you guys agree? I don't agree with all of that. It's all part of that calculation that I'm barely so this is why I'm saying in a banking, banking, banking, banking and all these things, right. And for me, the the medical gambling, what could what could what could could undo all of it is just some someone just saying, I want to take unilateral action quickly. In one of these areas, where you expect me not to, right. And so that mean, that that's, that's really what I what I what I thought about so you know, you expect your civilized, you know, adversary to behave only in this civilized way. That's what 911 was all about, right? You you, you didn't expect that to happen, because you just thought people would draw the line that's at a certain point. And they didn't. And so you were caught off guard, right? So I'm always thinking about, you know, it's when someone pushes you into a corner, sometimes it's better to just come out with your with your fists flying. And I hate to sound like that kind of person, because I'm not that kind of person, I will try to figure out a way first of all to make a joke, and then pick you somewhere. But and run. But you know, the the the the situation right now is yeah, it's banking on all these things to sort of like be in the lineup in the same way. I mean, he's banking on China to stay resolute as well on the opposition, but China may have difficulty in staying supportive if they crossed the line. So in terms of what they what they did, I mean, that no one's not recognizing that China's enabling right now. But when the you got to come to a point where people go, like, you know what you're doing with your friend there, that's not so cool. Not now, we really don't want you to play with us. And then, you know, China may have to change his tune as well. Because even even the people in China in the middle of it no matter what, what they feel and how they feel about the rest of the world, there comes a point where if you crossed the line of humanity, I think I think the regular Chinese will also feel that something is not quite right about that. And while the mechanism for change may not be, you know, as as a strong, it's still bad. If you have if you have a billion people unhappy with the situation, it makes a difference. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, I think there's gonna be a long Wordle Mm hmm. Well, I think I think I think there's some different factors that we need to factor in like, potential if it's quick, it's good, right? It's good. Or not good? Because it could actually just, you know, see my right. Yeah. But like, looking, looking, looking at this sort of the aspects, right. So whether you love him or hate him, I think Biden is a really seriously experienced leader, especially when it comes to Europe. And you know, he's depth of knowledge about how the European sort of states or function, I think, is, is an important, he's got a maturity, he's not I don't believe that he's a war monger. But you know, who knows, right. But another another issue that were already suffering from is inflation. And prices are going up again. So basically, the stock market went down yesterday, oil has passed$100, for the first time since 2014, gas prices are up, but wheat prices are up. And this is important. Because Russia and Ukraine, Ukraine are both part of the wheat belt, right. So countries that rely on wheat will potentially have hungry and, and very angry citizens. And this is going to create a lot of challenges around the globe, especially in developing countries, like I was reading a report about in Egypt, they rely on weak imports from Russia and Ukraine. So that's one of those things that the longer it goes on, it could create more hotspots that could explode and create bigger problems. And we've already got messy supply chains. So this is going to make that situation worse. And that's an issue. The economic fallout will be global. And we're already attempting to sort of emerge from a pandemic and the economic crisis. It's created. So more suffering for everyone. What will this mean, you know, what can we all tolerate? You know, I think that's a thing that we need to sort of keep sort of front of mind. Will we back our leaders against this aggression? Are our countries in the West capable of this anymore? You know, the anti war movement is stronger than ever? We, you know, I know, for me what war is useless. It doesn't achieve anything. Michael Moore made a statement, you know, and I'm not a huge fan of Michael Moore. But he basically said he felt like it was so old fashioned invading another country. And I thought, yeah, I mean, it doesn't really feel We'd, you know, Wars was from a distance, it's digital these days. But um, but when we, you know, we've seen this throughout history, when we have war in one place, and our eyes are focused on that war, it provides cover for other countries. And I don't know if you guys saw this yesterday, but the moment that Russia invaded Ukraine, Taiwan was basically warding off Chinese aircraft and its air defense. And now, this has happened before, this is not a new thing. But the timing of it was really interesting. So if China decides to say, well, this is the opportunity for us to take on Taiwan, what then? And that's probably the escalation I'm concerned about. And Joe, you've been talking about China a lot. But, you know, we've never seen Chinese military power fully unleashed. And I don't think we want to see it happen. But where else on the planet is going to fall over if this goes on, and that's why it's to me, it's a really important thing that we really look at this biggest story and its potential, because if it rolls out into this, it's, you know, Japan and World War Two, you know, we had Germany kicking off World War Two, and then we had Japan coming in, and the whole other thing, you know, happened, and it's the boiling points, and I know that Putin knows the potential for this. And from what he's saying, He's okay, with whatever outcome happens, he's gonna stand ready. But are he's people willing to stand behind that? And what is that West going to be okay, with? So that's kind of where I've been getting in, because we don't want to be facing Russia and China in a war. That just doesn't absolutely not. And I think, you know, I agree with you, Andrew, there's a lot of people who just want peace, and I'm one of them, I, you know, the the only people who benefit from war or the, the, the arms and the munitions manufacturers, either, you know, the bank, suddenly, they're, they're the oligarchs, or the wealthy in, you know, around the world, they control all that stuff. And so to have a good war is really good for business for them. But I think, you know, Joe and Josephine average, if I can use that silly term, don't want to have a war. They don't want to, you know, the consequences of the global consequences of, you know, bag it up supply chain shortage of food. You know, I'm still gobsmacked and flabbergasted that, you know, when there's an outbreak of COVID. Everybody goes and buys toilet paper, when there's no connection between that and and, you know, your, your digestive system. So, you know, we've seen what happens. For a mild, really, the pandemic has been an inconvenience, but we've seen what's, what impact that's had on our economy. War has the ability, of course, to just really back it up. And I think a lot of people don't want to have that. And I wonder whether they're just willing to go off. We'll let Putin down, we'll have it. And then we can just go on with our lives and pretend it never happened. Yeah. So but we're not, we're not we're not going back. Like, I think the NATO provocation is possibly an area of diplomacy that the West has pushed forward with that against the agreement. And I think that's a potential area where, you know, put the cards back on the table, I do think we need, we need to enter this war quickly, we cannot afford the escalation from climate perspective. I mean, I'd love to see the united nations come together and finally declare a global climate emergency, and then start putting all the energy towards that, because we can move everyone's attention away from this and move it towards where it actually needs to go. And that is bringing us all together to solve the climate crisis. Right. So there's, I mean, there's the maneuvers that are going to be happening in the coming weeks, hopefully not months and years. But obviously at the center of that innocent people are dying. Civilians are dying. It's hundreds of the it's over 100 and around 150 markets with the report. I heard on the news this afternoon here. Yeah. 100,000 refugees are on the move already. And you know, you're going back to your previous comment, I think Europe is refugee weary with I don't care where they come from the, you know, refugees there. What do you do with them that you've got to it's a problem. And it's another, it's another one of those unsettling nuisance things that if we could stop that quickly, that'd be great. And so yeah, you know, I sort of agree with you. Let's hope it's over and done with quickly but, but what's the outcome? If it's over and done with quickly? Yeah. Well, yeah, so that's, that's another really interesting one, the outcome would be Yeah, I think, and I think this is what Putin's playing for is let those independent ones go independent. So then they start to form their very strong alliances with Russia. So they've got their own border now. And, and the the operation is to go in there and get rid of the chest thumpers it seems to be, hence, you got to stop the airport and the ports. And you would think the other border crossings for letting anybody out if you want to catch them, and then the, and then it's to establish your own sort of military leadership there or whatever it is, and putting your own people again, but I mean, they're doing it in a military way. So I do, I do find it really, I do find it like a show of strength, I think the scary thing is let's just fast forward five years. And this, let's assume it was quick, or it's done by then there'll be a, depending on how the world reacts and how they take in refugees and how they help people Ukraine could be, could become a nation of very hostile towards everybody else, because nobody came to our help. Now, there's the other side, which is a bit disconcerting. That is when the US has said, we're not going in, but we will defend NATO will be there in a flash if anybody from from NATO, you know, we will defend any of our NATO friends. So they've kind of said, we'll defend the people that we're allies with in a in that pact, which kind of strengthens anybody's resolve to join that pact of the new US are going to come in and help them. But it also means that if Putin does go, or anybody goes into any of those areas, the US is then dragged into something. Which, so if it is political, and not land, I mean, there's a bit of sovereignty in those independent states that are claiming independence, those states that are claiming independence. But if it's about that, then and it's about getting rid of people who threaten, you know, but let's put a bunch of nukes here and, and, and sort of have that sort of control over or threatened Masco then I would see it would be quick, go and find the people it'd be quick. The thing is, if that's what they're doing, then then the word invasion is I mean, it is obviously invasion II you've got tanks and everything rolling in. Whereas Americans seem to fly a helicopter in at nighttime and go and capture somebody. And they don't call that an invasion, that incursion or redeployment or something. But but this one is tanks and troops. So it's clearly invasion worthy as a as a word, I suppose. But if I fast forward a little bit, I, I could see it, I could see the danger is America, this is force America to say we will defend these guys. So if things escalate, you've got you're in America now in another wall. If I don't think this one will escalate. But it's sort of set a precedent for some sort of future something where if Ukraine is sort of merged into the Russian Union, then then why not just push the boundaries of that and reclaim the Eastern Bloc? Can't? It does I'm again with with Michael more on this, it does feel like we've just gone back in time, and we're seeing something play out that we're just like, what, what's going on? China, Taiwan. That's a really interesting one. Yeah, I don't know what's gonna happen there. So Bob just said, Jack, Japan moved in China and Russia long before Germany got into it. Yeah, so the history with Japan and China, especially with back a long time, proving checkers listening, and we don't learn anything from history, except for letting some nonsense repeat again, and again. Totally agree. And Gloria Mila is all I can tell you is it's all showbiz. John Lennon. And I certainly agree with that. But yeah, I mean, I think, you know, based on where the world is right now, with, with the crises that the world is facing right now. And you know, like, pandemics and wars often go together, right? When the world's in unstable place, the walls sort of come over the top of it, but we are at a point in human history that we've never been at before. And we need to, we need to recognize where we are right now as a global society. Where, you know, like, if this if this becomes nuclear, I was reading I think it there's not that many nuclear bombs that won't take global warming beyond eight degrees. And I think the cockroaches can survive that, right so we can afford war. And that's what I find extremely challenging about this situation. And we talked about it many, many times on the no show. We cannot afford war. And here we are. In a war when we're supposed to be coming together with you know, people are talking about the predictions of the future and the new the new world order and all that sort of stuff and We, we have to have a livable planet for any of that, to even be possible, and that's what we have to start. But the other thing that I've got to say is just everyone stepped back from this. There's a lot of emotions, a lot of intensity, a lot of fear. You know, when there's life, there's hope, right? Really, you know, a bit step back from that try and be objective, to try and understand the conflict from multiple levels, multiple dimensions. And let's just hope you know that they're, they're not foolish enough that they're going to go that it's gonna become the worst possible outcome. Because then we probably won't be doing the no show anymore. Yeah, so how long did the the two World Wars last? It was about three years for each? Wasn't it? Three, four years? 40 to 40 1414? To 18? Yeah. 39 to 4565. So, you know, is this the start of six years of I don't know what I don't there's there's a world war. And it has, it has the potential if it could go, then we're not buying the right cards here. So Tyrone Jackson, he's just I don't know, interesting comment. Let's take solace in defeating Vietnam. They'll think twice before attacking the US again. And sorry, sorry, Tyrone. I'm not sure who you are and where you come from. But I don't believe that the Americans actually succeeded in defeating Vietnam. Does anybody else believe that? That was a success? No, no. With the tails between their legs? Yeah. Yeah. So all right. Any other thoughts on that? I think, by the way, I think they could have. I think they could have eventually, but they were withdrawn before that happened. But it didn't need us. It could have been Vietnam could really well, I, I did a whole piece on on Vietnam when I went with a whole group of people to Vietnam and went to Saigon and all these places. And they were, they were holding the the 43rd parallel, I think it was, and, and there was, the Americans were, it was, it was when Hanoi went the round away, putting the 1000 mile walk bicycles and everything else and came into Saigon. But Americans were were getting it. It's a lot of these wars, the same sort of thing and happen. This one political pressure and everything back home was get them out. And that was scuppering the ability for for them to be able to reinforce and just finish it. Same thing with the Anzacs in in Turkey. I mean, they were put in the wrong place. And they were they were a day away from winning. And then they were ordered out. You know, the Turks had run out of ammunition as well. I mean, it I don't know, it all depends on the story. And whose history listening to at the end of it, but, but I do. Anyway, I just said that. So we don't annoy somebody who's like, you know, pro Vietnam or anything. But, but certainly if you go to Vietnam, it's not run by America at the moment. No, no, no. And you go to the museums and you go to the warm war museum. Yeah, no, and you know it, but the way they present it, but Bob said no, with a exclamation mark. So I'm presuming that's again, something you've just said. And somebody just said AlJazeera just covered a rally of 1000s in Russia protesting the invasion in Ukraine. So that's, that's what we were talking about. Wow. Okay. That's interesting. Russians protesting. That's really interesting. Well, they were protesting in Moscow, and they were all arrested 1700 It was very quickly, squashed squash, but had been if everyone stands up, then you know, they can't, they can't squash them. All right. So it's going to be a numbers game. You know, so Tyrone Jackson is sharing some interesting perspectives. But would you like to move on to COVID? Yeah, sure. Let's do that. Yeah. And I don't know about you guys. But I wasn't paying as much attention to COVID as I would normally pay attention to because of what was going on in the Ukraine. But we did hear that the Queen has COVID. She has a mild case of COVID. And obviously the world wishing well wishes around the world were sent in. But Hong Kong, what's going on in Hong Kong is? Yeah, pretty alarming. Yeah. I mean, we were talking about it last week, and you know, Beijing sort of directive to Carrie Lam to get in there and get it under control. And she seems to have sort of taken that and there's a really interesting piece. It's a Bloomberg opinion piece called Hong Kong is surrender, surrendering its future in a race against COVID. It cannot win And this looks like the impact on the children, the impact on students. They've just about to close all of the schools for the year and they're going to become COVID centers. They're doing mandatory testing for every person. In Hong Kong, we're hearing stories of domestic workers are being fired and kicked out onto the streets because they've been contracted COVID. So it's yeah, it's pretty, it's pretty ugly, what's going on over there. I'm getting a whole bunch of emails from people in Hong Kong looking to get on a plane and get out and get to Phuket as quickly as possible. So I think something like 30,000 of expats have jumped on a plane in the last month, you know, so it's getting getting pretty brutal over there. You guys reading anything? You're interesting. I have some firsthand experience, one of my niece's lived in Hong Kong, and her husband was a part of Tiger airways, of course, Tiger Airways was shut down. And they came back to Australia. And, you know, it's really getting out of hand, that's for sure. And they were glad to be gone. It was sort of an inconvenience at the time. But, you know, the 2020 hindsight, they're so glad they're here now, rather than there. Yeah. So and what they're doing with the, you know, they're their workers is just brutal. You know, if you got COVID. Well, and you're the, you know, the Armor Doesn't matter. Get out of the house, go and we don't want you in here. Like that's how does that work? Anyway? Yeah. Yeah, Take Take care. Take care of these ladies. So yeah, so Bob's basically saying, No, the US didn't win in Vietnam. And then he said, when the US and Vietnam went to Paris to negotiate the US, sorry to negotiate the US booked a villa for six months, the Vietnamese for three years, which I think is a really interesting distinction. And Bob's just recovered from COVID. So that's good to hear. But yeah, some interesting interesting chats coming through so keep keep talking to us, guys. But um, yeah, anything else on COVID that you guys are reading? I mean, for me, the message is clear. We're definitely moving into the living with it territory. Would you agree? So yeah, and if I can just give you a like an Australian update, where I leave on the fourth of March will all restrictions will be lifted. So no mask wearing any place you'll need to wear a mask will be on an aeroplane or in a hospital, or if you're a food service person. And that's already happened in in the to eastern states. I'm in Queensland, so New South Wales, Victoria below me, no restrictions. West Australia is finally opening its border to the rest of the country, which is just like what shocked us horror. I'm actually traveling to Portugal in April, I'm transiting through Singapore, and I no longer have to be tested when I land in Singapore, even I'm in transit. So they've lifted all testing requirements there. So and I think by the time I get on the plane, it'll be a you double vaccinated. Mr. Adams, yes, welcome aboard. Rather than at the minute, you have to have a rapid energy test, at least to get on the plane. It used to be a PCR test, but they reduce it to a rapid engine test. So we have our Chief Health Officer and state in which I live has said, we are quickly moving from a pandemic to an endemic, so interesting, where we're at in Australia. You know, I've got buddies across Europe, and, you know, in the Netherlands, they've opened all restrictions or taken all restrictions away in Spain, or restrictions are gone. It's and yet they still got 1000s of cases, but it's kind of living with now. And people are really just fatigued out over the stay at home business, the you know, the impact on business, the economy, the whatever, everyone just wants to go back and leave again. Leave again. If you know me. Yeah. You guys keeping track of the conversation that's coming through? Well, yeah, during one end of it, I want to see what's on LinkedIn, something I've seen mostly what's Bob saying? But I think there's more happening on the other of the other channels that you're looking at right now. This lady says a lady called Gloria Miller who's commenting quote from 2015 with talking about cloth masks. So Gloria, you're obviously an anti mascot, which is fine. Like, we live in a part of the world where that's not an option in Asia. I think we'll be wearing masks for a lot longer than the rest of the world. And then we've got Tyrone who's say talking about 400,000 ganja smoking, hippies. Puking expect to writing defecating urinating in a muddy posture for three days and the raging Hong Kong flu plus no masks equals Woodstock. Yeah, I mean not, but I'm with Bob. Yeah, well, you know, these are the live stream comments that are coming through here on streaming out. But Bob, Bob saying that he thinks lifting all restrictions is a bad idea. I think we're at that point of pandemics where we're impatient for it to be over. But whether or not it's the right time for it to be over is another thing. So but, you know, I want to address something about, you know, like, mosque wearing. So I'm not even sure what what the comment is. But I My sense is always, you know, when it's all done, people go like you say, we were right, after all, we did wear masks. And I put it to you this way, right? Before a certain age, you can't get pregnant, there's a certain age during which you can get pregnant and as the page age after which you can't get pregnant again, right. So if you if you and it's this is not a perfect analogy, because I just thought about it. But if you think about it, the same behavior at different phases, produces different results and exposes you to different risks. So we're at the stage right now with Omicron, where, who says, you know, what, the measures that we put in place, or that people are trying to put in place are not working. So let's, let's now just dismiss back off on the restrictions, because despite all the restrictions, this is the result. Therefore, what we should do is this instead, that's that's the thing. And this would not be the same prescription, if it was delta we would be dealing with or the impact back in the days the original variant as well. Because that was a different kind of math. That was where exposure to it was much riskier than it is right now. So now we talk about Omicron. You know, you might think, Okay, well, not so much of a risk. Okay. So let me tell you, they put some numbers out there to you and make you ask some questions of yourself now. Because now now the the older people are feeling a bit more secure, because it's not as dangerous to them. Right. But the number of people in ICU right now who are kids is rising. Yeah. You know, we we comfortable with that? You know, just just no doubt. And we were okay. So, you know, I was I didn't feel like wearing a mask before. And they made me do this. And I was in danger. But no, no, no, I'm not in danger anymore. Half of them are getting complacent. Yeah, and now your kids getting sick. And now you have things like, like the the largest the greatest threat that we have when you get Omicron. Now, I wish the only now discovering is in the year following COVID Your your heightened risk of heart disease. And it's it's not something that just goes away. So, yes, in terms of the effort, like we, if we're if we're, if we're trying to hold back, a big, great big flood, you might say that in the grand scheme of things, it might not make as much sense to do something like wear a mask. But on an individual level, the statistics are quite different. So what I'm what I'm going to put to you is this, like my household is it's quite different. My wife, you know, she's on chemotherapy, she's immunocompromised. And just last week, despite the very low number of deaths in Singapore, one of them happened to be someone that we happen to know, who happened to be in a similar situation, who was overcome by COVID. So it's a it's a it's a grand statistical thing. I mean, statistically speaking, everyone can tell go back to the old style of behaving and he can expose yourself to X amount of risk with this and that all kind of stuff. But the reality is that there is risky behavior. And then I used to do this even before COVID. And he used to drive everyone around me mad because I was the guy who if I had the slightest sense of a sniffle coming on, I would stop shaking hands, I would I don't know if Tim ever remembers me, not not really shaking hands at any events, I don't like to do that. I mean, I, because I don't want to give it to you. And that's my, my whole thinking, and people aren't doing that right now. Because they're not thinking of the impact of what they're doing. It is still something dangerous, that is going around, maybe not dangerous immediately to you. And, you know, in terms of your perception, you might be right about that. But you also could be wrong. And in terms of the kids who are in ICU, we're not talking about people with comorbidities, they're just young, and that's the new thing for Omicron not that it's harmful to a lot of kids. But that proportion and they don't have the same kind of caveat is like you know, you don't don't necessarily have to have this comorbidity and become particularly, you know, like, vulnerable to it. So it's it's a different it's a different kind of science. So yeah, you know, you you you i i hate the idea that mask wearing for instance, what are those things that becomes a proof that we were right after all, because it's it's one of those things where I'd rather you be right on some other aspect where there is some validity to your concerns like something You are concerned about turned out to be right, or whatever it is, and I'm completely okay with that. But to take something that is a false, you know, equivalent to take that and then sort of like, you know, especially it feels a little bit like the new kind of music that that's affecting everyone right now where I think in rap, they're wrapping about people or did and making fun of them. You know, it does feel a little bit like that, in terms of the people have put in to try and fix something and control something, which is actually for everyone's benefit, including people who don't want to wear masks, and then have them go like, Oh, you know, yeah, he was a waste of time to roll with it. I had an interesting conversation with my wife last night, which was about because we're about to go to Australia, try lifting all the restrictions on masks. We've got, we've still got him over here, and the restrictions over here. And so the conversation is when we get to Australia, you're gonna wander around with a mask on. And I was like, Huh. And I got to the well, on the plane, yeah, I'll be wearing the mask and going to the airport, everything else. But but then I was like, so it's going to get to the point where, where I'm gonna look like some. So it then comes down to do I am I worried that I'm going to look like I'm either infected with something or or distrustful of everybody else? Because that's what it kind of looks like. It's like, I don't, I don't trust anything. I think everybody's infected and everything else and I don't want to get or I am I've got a cold or whatever it is. That's what people that's what I'm going to appear to be like, or do I just walk around with no mask on just so that I can get through the day without, you know, we had looked at the mask, because I believe the mask is, is in a in an environment where they just look at the chat right now. Everybody has a different opinion about everything. And there's a bit of finger pointing stone throwing about, about the beginning at some point. And and I'm not claiming to know, I'm not claiming to know it, but I'm not. I'm not, I don't believe that you know it. And so as a result, I'm going to wear the frickin mosque. Because I I don't know, you don't know, the experts say something and then a few other people say something else. But you know, and I and I get that the mosque can you know, microbes was one of the arguments Sure, thrown in the washing machine. I get that. But But what am I gonna? How am I going to lead my family in this one. And my wife said, well, she's gonna wait, she's gonna Singapore, she's aware that she's gonna wear the mask the whole time when not a whole time, like when we indoors or anything, but when she's out and about in shopping centers, and whatever, and she's gonna wear the mask. And the reason and part of the reason why I think that that's a sensible approach is because of this move to let's lift everything and let everyone get Omicron. That seems to be the if we're all gonna have to get it at some point. That seems to be the the thanks, Yoko. That That seems to be the thing. So the idea is, you know, I always supposed to I always, always, what are we supposed to do? When we when we're faced with something like this? Sorry, I really wild comments. So I'm going to hang up. Yeah. I want to help allay your nerves team. When you come to Australia, you're welcome to wear a mask. Even though we've had situations, you know, we've had periods in the past where we've had no mask mandate. A lot of people still wearing them, you will not stand out. There's there's a lot of people in fact, public transport. Now, people are more comfortable wearing a mask on public transport than ever before. You know, it wasn't part of our culture two years ago, but it certainly is now. You're not going to stand out. You're not going to be I will point at you and go that man's infected there's something wrong with him. But do that because you're a dear friend. Others would not. So, you know, remain calm, you're not going to stand out. And it comes down to personal choice. We all have an opinion. And it's interesting reading the opinions in the chat at the minute some critic comments in their tone to their opinion. You know, there's four of us here pasteurizing extrapolating, blah, blah, blah. We don't know what you know, we ain't right. Are we are we aren't we? Who knows? We've got an opinion, and we're all entitled to it. Well, exactly. The news and the MyAccount myocarditis pericarditis arguments an interesting one because it's also people who get COVID It's one of the long impacts of COVID Right? But earlier Tyrone, no, I wasn't calling you an anti mascot Tyrone. Somebody else made an anti mouse. Comment but opinions from published medical publications. So yes, look, we know that is a myocarditis and pericarditis risk of from the vaccines. But the risk from COVID is much, much, much greater than from the vaccine. So we've talked about that in weeks, weeks before. But like, like, like Lindsay said, everyone's got their opinions. We're just here to talk about what's going on in the news and what's happening in the news. And not everyone's gonna agree with it. So that's cool without threat. But it's interesting, though, when you look at New Zealand, you know, they were one of the first countries in the world to now as far as to the ground, they had no cases, they were the showcase country of the world. And now their citizens are just sick to death of being told to stay at home being locked down, their economy is suffering terribly. And you know, they locked the whole country then I got three cases in in 4 million people, or what four or 5 million people's got a very small population over there. And they get three cases and they shut the whole country down. You know, I've got my good mate Porter Hall and in the Netherlands seat there, he tells me all we, you know, we had a, we have locked down at the minute, the bars have to shut at 8pm at night, that's a lockdown there. And they have 20 20,000 cases a day. Like what, hey, if I can just jump in and talk about why that is, again, an equivalent situation, right? It's about you know, someone peeing in your bathtub and someone peeing in your swimming pool. New Zealand's a big swimming pool. So, you know, it is one way that it is the control that they have over the situation as well, they have much more ability to try and work on things. So it's actually a viable thing to try and break it down and hold it down. And so they've been successful that way. But I think it completely just said no more of it. Well, the crime because I'm a crime just just isn't going to stay down that way. So anyway, that's called the Land of the Long White mask. And just just a just a final one for Yoko, I probably should weekend reads where I every single week, I have links to all the articles that and reference points. And look, you've obviously got an angle that you're going for here. And that's fine. And I'm I'm really open to it. And I've read that perspective, too. But anyway, so if you're looking for references to cite, there's plenty of studies in my weekend reads, which are published every week. But I'm thinking like looking at the time, because obviously there's a lots going on, should we move into Lindsey section, and then we can do the environment section afterwards, where we talk about building relationships while you've still got energy? Yeah, I definitely think so. Based on the comment, we need to get to that part now. Yeah, so yeah, so as we said, we're like, Lindsay's the relationships guy, and he's all about relationships. I've seen him in action as he speaks about, and he's written books about it, and he lives and breathes it, and today, he's gonna share with us, you know, how do you get into relationship quickly? How do you leverage your relationships? And, you know, what is some of your icebreakers that you could give? Okay, so I'll give you some really simple tips. Riddle me this. Have you ever been to a function where you're talking to someone, and you notice that they're not looking at you? They're gazing over your shoulder, their eyes are darting around the room, looking to see who else is there? Have you? Have you ever had that happen to you? This is where you're not yet. Sorry. Thanks, Tim. Yeah, well done. Tim, your religion. And so here's the thing, when you're when you're engaging with someone, for the first time, somebody you've never met before, perhaps or you don't know them very well look at them, look in the eye and focus on them. 110%. But this is the most amazing conversation you've had in your whole life, because it sends a message that I'm interested in you. And so as human beings, we're very perceptive, and we pick out whether people are they listening to us, or are they off somewhere else. And so if the concept if you concentrate on them they tuning in, they know that you're interested in them. The next step is to apply the 8020 rule, or the Pareto principle, you know what the Pareto principle is, in fact, it was created by a guy called Vilfredo Pareto who is an Italian accountant. He used to grow peas in his backyard, and Vilfredo found out that 20% of his P crop yield at 80% of the peas. I think he had too much time on his hands myself. Anyway. So the secret here is applying his principle. You talk for 20% of the time, they talk for 80% of the time, so you got to ask them questions which open up the conversation, get them talking about them. Tim, how long did it take you to grow that amazing beard? You look so handsome. Joe, where did you buy those glasses? They're incredible. Andrea? It's a lovely red dress. You're wearing red top you wearing it just easy and what's with the shirt might? Exactly and just show it gets a conversation happening. My watch bought this for me, buddy. Think about that for a second. Why am I wearing it? Got it. Okay, good for you criticize Debbie. It's about the relationship. And so you know, it get them talking get them talking about them, don't you dominate the conversation, they will subconsciously likely you've got you got your eyes focused on them, you've got them talking about them, they will subconsciously like you. And you know, it's all about know, like and trust. We know that simple. You know, if people know you like you trust you, they'll do business with you. And so the next step is to talk about finding common ground, what have we got in common? How can we talk about that stuff? And so, you know, there are so many things we can talk about there. You know, between the four of us, we can talk about, you know, living the life of an international speaker or what it's like to travel internationally or, you know, what's the way that there are so many simple things that you can talk about, that's common to all of us? You know, for us three blokes, we could talk about how it must feel for that poor guy. You know, when he throws his, you know, his, his nether regions off on the 20 Kilometer ski run that he did. Andrew, you'll just have to imagine what it's like. And so, the next step is the PS. My mum used to be a great letter writer, and she wrote to my eldest brother Neville, every Sunday night, this is the day before computers and email, she would sit at the kitchen table every Sunday night right Neville letter. And she'd often get to the end go you know, that's it for this week. Love mom. And then she goes, Ah, forgot to tell him about and she do a PS a postscript? Well, in terms of relationship, the PS is a small act of positive service. And so think about this, you one. You have a meeting. And you know, you meet with Tim, our team was so nice to meet you. And you go back to your office and you write a handwritten note, Tim, so nice to meet you. Looking forward to working with you, man, you've got a an amazing beard. You look so handsome. Kind regards, Lindsey. Joe, so nice to meet you. Here's a copy of my book that I promised you, Andrea, so nice to meet you. Here's that article I was telling you about. I know you love, you know, interesting articles. So what's the PS? What's the small act of positive service that you could do to enhance your relationship? Or you could use it at the start. So I was in America at a conference. It's lunchtime. You know, it's like you line up at the buffet table, you get this big long queue of people. And you arrive at the food table. There's a big pile of plates, big pile of cutlery and wrapped up in serviettes. I took a plate or took a category and I turned around to the guy behind me read his name, tag a bob, have a plate have a knife and fork and he goes, Oh, thanks, Lindsay. He read my name badge. And then we went down the food table filled our plates. We sat together at lunch, we ate lunch together. He's become my second best friend for life. I've got an open invitation to stay at his house when I pass through Kentucky. Like I do that often. But anyway, can you see how simple this stuff is in so you know, focus on the other person, get them talking about themselves and finish off with a small act of positive service. It Ain't Rocket Science. But it's a really simple way just to leverage relationships. And then once you get to that point, you might want to do business with this person. That's a whole nother you know, section but you can leave off this relationship. It's always relationships first, business second. A lot of people try to jump in and sell your stuff. Ah, hello, Tim. I saw razor blades would you like some? No. Oh, why not? I mean, they work for me. You're unmuted. You know what I mean? Like it? It's it's about relationships first, business second. It's such a simple thing. I mean, it's obvious, right? Well, why? Why don't people get it? What Why do they struggle with it? Is it bad examples? So you know, I've spent about a year just jump in and speak for just a moment about as someone who doesn't get relationships that Well, I mean, I I'm one of those people when I was growing up, I really hated the idea of networking for ones for instance, right? Because I really had a sense that I was going out there I was just too aware of the process. I was too. One of the things I have when I as someone who does studies of magic or being a magician. Most magicians have bad performance because they're very aware that they're doing magic and so they start behaving weird in that process. So I find that when people are trying to work on relationships, they're not as as as smooth in terms of delivering, you know, on these things which are which are essentially their moves and they succeed wildly. But I was always aware of it as a move, you know, and that was my, my issue on that. So I just was curious about that from, you know, is that something that really that most people don't detect, but you don't, you don't realize that someone's making a move? It, it really does depend, I guess. And you know, a lot of people, they just simply afraid to ask or talk, you know, it. I've spent ages, you know, overtime training people and, and people struggle and business events, just having a simple conversation. And so having a few simple tips, tools and ideas really does make a difference. Is that because people are at those events because they've got an agenda. And or they've been told to go to the event and network with people, and they feel uncomfortable about the fact that they're there to find someone to sell them something. And, and they're not there to build relationships. Do you think that's why it's sort of grinding against their, their, their natural way of, you know, having conversation with a mate? Yeah, because Oh, God, if you need God, I'll give you a real life example. I was running a training program one day, and this guy said, I'm a partner in I'm a, an accountant in an accounting firm, the partners called us together and said, You guys need to go out and get business go out and join a networking group and get business. And this guy said, I'm a trained accountant, I have a network. And, and I'm actually fearful of what to do. I don't know how to go and get business. You know, so there's this undue pressure, that when I walk into the room, I'm supposed to crash tackle someone and drag them in and make them do business with me? Which, you know, it's just not real. And so, you know, it really comes back to that basic stuff, you know, interact with others as a human first, and then then see what comes? Yeah, I think I think it's, I, I do, I mean, I find the way that you do it really, really, really refreshing, Lindsey, because because you're you're there just, you appear to be there. Just to enjoy yourself and be in the moment. And, and that's, that's how you come across when I've seen you at many events. And sometimes you've got a really important keynote to deliver. Sometimes you're there as the president of the associate or of any association, but you still come across with this, this genuine, I'm just, I'm, I'm pleased to be here. And I'm, and I'm, I'm having great time. I possibly some of it is people are afraid to approach. They're happy to be approached, but they're afraid to approach, which is ironic, because if everybody's afraid to be approached, but happy to be approached, that if you approach someone they're happy for that to happen. It's an interesting one. A lot of people go in networking, and I say, what, what, why are you here? I'm networking. What does that mean? What's your purpose? While I'm networking? You know, my boss told me to go to a networking function, but they don't have a clear outcome or purpose in mind. And so that's, you know, another really simple one, if you're going to go to an event. And my my basic goal want to go to any event is just to talk to three people that I've never met before, and have a meaningful conversation, not rush out and say, Hello, Joe. And Lindsay, here's my business card. Hello, Andrea, I'm Lindsay is my business card. And this is not networking, and networking, saying, Hey, Joe, tell me about yourself. So you actually do a bit of magic to you, you seem to know a little bit about it. I saw that really nifty card gesture, how does that work? You know, open up a conversation have a meaningful conversation. And, you know, I'll be honest with you, at the bottom of every, every conversation, I'm thinking, Could I do business with Joe, could I do business with Andrea or whoever I'm talking to? And so, you know, there is that element as well. However, I'm not going to be able to ask them to do business until we have some form of relationship. Because we're just wanting to the room ago, Andrea, I know you buy products like like ourselves, do you want to buy some? What's the response gonna be? No, no, maybe not today? And it's to me it's the same as the LinkedIn blind pitch, right? How many how many? My LinkedIn inbox is just full of pitches from people offering me services that I don't I don't need and if I wanted them, and if I wanted them, it's I'm not going to go oh, okay, cuz some stranger pops up in my box. You know, I'm great. Would you like to buy something? Yeah, exactly. Like, come on. You know, I'm going to ask my community who do you recommend that provides these services? That's how it works today. Right? Yeah, it's pretty crazy what's going on in the world? Well, I'm just gonna, I'm going to throw myself out there as that as the as the, you know, the person who could most benefit from from improving on relationships, because evidently, I don't do it as well. You know, I think what I, what I've done is I was coming up in from as a young as a younger person. I, I worked on the idea of merit a lot. And I so I, I I'm not suggesting that I'm very good at what I do. But at least in terms of how I looked at life, I always thought it was about getting ahead, because you were better. And part of what ran against that, in my mind was the idea that you know, you could you could better know someone better and get and get ahead because of that as well. The I'm not against networking and relationships, I see that that's that's just about how I was when I was younger, I used to talk about, you know, when I, when I was 25, I used to think about I hate going to networking, because I know people want something from me. And then when I got the 40 Plus, I realized that you go to networking, because people want something from you, you know. So that was like the kind of thing that I came across. But I just I just thought about that in terms of you know, how that, does that occur to someone from young, it's part of the idea that I that I've been thinking about in terms of Dynasty, which is about how successful families you know, pass on successful information, successful behavior. And I think successful families pass on things like the power of networking and power being, you know, a good conversationalist power being just a nice person. I mean, it's it seems like something you don't have to teach someone to do. But I think some people don't, you know, and I think I'll be I'll be honest, and say that in my upbringing, I think we were more suspicious of the people around us because we had some circumstances that made it necessary. And I caught some of that and took me a long time to get out of that. So I'm on screen right now with two people who've helped me a lot in terms of, of building a relationship. So Joe, it's interesting comment you make. I learned a lot about networking from my eldest brother. He's a great I talked about him in my book. He's a great keeper in Tatra was the term I quoted, it's such a an item, but I'm that guy is 14 years older than me. So he's in turns, I think 35 next birthday. He, he, he's now retired. He worked his life in Roads and Drainage. He's a civil design draftsman. So you know, designs roads, and drainage for newer sites and so on. He keeps in touch with everyone. He knows guys that he met 3040 years ago. He's retired now in Stanford, but country town and Queensland, he met a mate of his who said, I never get to see you. You know, I'm fallen on hard times, or looking for a job at the minute and never says, Oh, actually, oh, and give me give me give me an hour or so calls up someone and got the bloke a job. Now, it was just lucky that they were hiring. However, you know, he's a great just because he kept in touch. He knew that there was something boiling. And this bloke said I need a job. So you know, it. Another real life example. The house I live in, I built myself. It'll be we've lived here 29 years now. I was on a plane. And when I say built myself physically built myself, me and my dad, my seven year old apprentice, we stood the timber frames. I labored for the bricklayer, I labored for the roof plumber, you know, I built the house myself. I was on a plane flying to Canberra, I sat beside the state sales manager for Austral Bricks. Me being me, we you know, the plane took off. We were sort of eating a meal. And I said, I'll get a minute Lindsey, what do you do? He said, I you know, I work for brick company. I'm a sales manager said bricks. And we started talking about bricks. We talked about everything about bricks. When that plane landed, he stood up, he took his briefcase out of the overhead locker took out his business card handed to me and said when you really call me and I had this kind of naive look, come over my face. And he said, When you're ready to buy your bricks call me or look after you. Now. Think about it. What what made that guy want to do that? I didn't ask him. And so you know, I think back it was the engaging in the conversation. We had the common ground. You know, we all of the things I talked about were part of that conversation. And he wanted to help me we got it we you know, we had established a relationship. Now when we went to see that guy, he sold us the bricks. I swear they fell off the back of the company. The back of the brick works. We've got them so cheap. He really looked after us. And it was all because of a two hour conversation. So So what I'm what we're fundamentally talking about is just curiosity for other people, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. All right. We're having. I don't know, people have been recruiting. We're having some pretty interesting conversations going on on YouTube here, Tim, that don't seem to like you very much, Lindsey, you're getting a bit of a hammering as well. I, it's it's really interesting, because we're not here to do any harm. We're here to talk about the news. Someone said we're not taking the the Research Data seriously. We've been going on. Last August, we started doing this. We've been talking about COVID. And, and the research and the data extensively, and this week, we're actually not is at least focused on COVID. But what what I find really interesting about this is the insults that are coming through, and the unkindness, right. So we're, like I said, we're not here to do harm. We're not here to insult anybody. We're just having conversations around what's going on in the world right now. And to me, it's just a classic example. So Bob, that's why we're not responding to you, because we've got these other other comments sort of coming over you. But yeah, it's it's a it's a really interesting thread, don't you think, Tim? We haven't seen this before? And I actually, why are they wasting their time? If I didn't like it? Yeah. Yeah, no, no, I have a I have a theory about it. I don't know whether the theory is accurate. But because we've been talking about the war, we've been talking about Russia, we've been talking about, we've been talking about things that had that would trigger alerts to trolls, right? Well, there's no to trolls or to bots, or to social media manipulators. And what tends to happen, because I remember once I commented about Australia's coal export in some chat very, very innocently, saying, you know, somebody was talking about coal, strength coal export, and I was talking about how, you know, but you know, that the defense was, Australia only uses like some point zero 2% of the world's coal. Why are we getting spotlighted for something rather, now that I've said that it's triggered off the coal people. So there'll be joining us in just a minute. But they but the the comments that came into that were were were not adult comments. They were not. They were not conversational debates. So like the comments we're getting here. So the comments are getting here, pure oil boarding school type, attack the person talk about sexuality, try and bring him down in that particular way to kind of shame someone or embarrass somebody into stop talking about we're not going to do that, guys. So go and troll somebody else. Right? So we're not we know, you know, what you do you validate the fact that we're actually making some progress here. So thanks for coming in and validating it because if we're, if we're getting enough eyeballs for you guys to worry that we're making any sort of headway in influencing somebody, some somebody to take some positive action to help change the world. And thanks, you helped us you've re energized re energized us keep going. So I appreciate that. But I think it's because we've touched upon some things that have hashtagged into troll bot world. And and, you know, and board people at for him in some other part of the world world. Because it is for him. Some parts was a don't worry about them. I had a bit of fun, but now I'm giving up on them because I realized that by focusing on them, I wasn't looking at Lindsay in the eye. And which meant I wasn't learning anything. Yeah. I was just I dropped out because my computer froze. And I was thinking to myself now I've missed out the key part to make this thing a try factor. Right. We had we started off with tricks, and I did something got magic tricks. Then we got the bricks and the whole brick story. Yes. Well, we're talking about how the trolls are throwing mud at us and that it's not going to stick. Oh, okay. Okay. All right. Sticks and stones, bricks. Okay. Cool. So, Lindsay, if somebody who tuned into this to actually, actually this is a reasonable question, you're the relationships guy. How do you deal with trolls? Oh, that's an interesting one. Generally, I find that you have to rise above it. I got a great night. His name is Alvin law. He was born with no arms. His mother took thalidomide when she was pregnant. She had morning sickness. And he he used to get bullied a lot at school. And his dad wasn't his birth dad. He was adopted. He was given up for adoption, sadly by his parents, anyway. His dad as he grew to know him, said to him, elven people will always look at you People will always want to take shots at you. You There are two options here, you can resort to violence, and you've got no arms. So how are you going to do that? Or you can rise above them. And I think, you know, the simple thing is, we just rise above it. And, you know, you either ignore it, or you move on or you don't engage, you know, is some such, you know, I agree with your comedy or pure our comments in the chat. And, you know, personal attacks, you know, like, grow up anyway. So I think, I wish I could see these times, I feel like I'm missing out on something. Oh, just don't click comments, you're probably sitting in private chat. Okay, you'll say, so, actually, to waste your time. Sorry. Sorry, Lindsay, keep going. Yeah, so I, you know, made, I just think it's, you, if there are some people you're going to engage with, and you're going to love it. And there are other people who you're going to engage with, and you're not going to like it. And so just move on, you know, in every every networking event, there will be someone that you you're not going to connect with. And there'll be more different to yours. And they'll be so yeah, there'll be so wound up about what you think, say or do. It really is better to just move on. Yeah. And so you know, you can do the gracious thing and, and ignore them or you can do the the gracious thing and say lovely chatting with you. This is a networking event, I'm going to get on talk to someone else. Or I've got to go and top up my coffee or you know, excuse me, I've got to go to the the jeans, you know, disengage. And I gotta say, though, some of them are really funny. Yeah, some of them. So I just gotta say, I can I just read what? It's actually it's very funny. He he's having a go, but I've just finally Laird. Tim has been utterly defeated. Lindsay needs a booster at a hug at a cup of coffee, and herbal tea and a wig. Tim's I'm compromising fiction. I think TYRONE You are far more brilliant than to waste your talents of being a troll mate. great at writing. Infected bottle now to Alright, so thanks, Lindsay. So should we move on to Environment and Society. And I'll just go through a couple of these. So one of the articles that I really want to encourage everyone to read, the title is rock strong on climate risk and conflict at Munich Security Conference. So every year there's a security conference. So you know, defense leaders from around the world come together and talk about, you know, what, what's at risk. And basically, this guy, Roger Ross rock, Strom said, we are currently experiencing a serious serious hammering by multiple interconnected systemic risks and crises which threaten global security. And obviously, the Ukraine and the wider geopolitical situation is part of it, surging and volatile energy prices is part of it. And then he says, the climate crisis that hits harder than expected earlier than expected and affects all nations. So this is a world of rising turbulence and systemic risks. So to me, this is probably the first article where I really feel like it was the moment when I, I was talking to my mom the other day, and she was born just after World War Two. And I said to her, it feels like this is the moment where peace is finally ended. We've had amazing prosperity and peace. And of course, it's been more than all over the world since World War Two. But other than this article, it really felt like this is the moment where peace has come to an end. And we're moving into into, you know, they say it's the decade of disruption, but I think it's, I think it's more than that. Desperation. Well, but what happened, right? Yeah, and it depends, but we can come together and sort of move in the same direction where we try and take care of the majority and do the right things, but it's, do we prepare or do we react? And then there's a lot of reacting. So, you know, the refugees coming out of Ukraine. We know it's happening. So how do we prepare? How do we how do we take care of people in that crisis? You know, yeah. We talked about Thwaites Glacier, the doomsday glacier last week. And I haven't looked at the news this week. But that should that as I said, that research project should be coming to an end. But there's a new federal report that warns of accelerating impacts from sea level rise, and I really would encourage you to read it because it's got amazing stories from the frontline all over the world about, you know, fishermen, and that the whole beach is completely the structure of the beach where their boats have been sitting where they go out to sea and do their fishing. The whole structure of the beach has completely changed and it's impacting their ability to Even fish, there's United Nations are coming together to hopefully sign a global treaty to rein in plastic. So apparently 75% of people in the world want single use plastics ban. So we've got to hope that that happens. Another big story in the environment is did you say the story about Ethiopia turning on its new Nile hydropower, hydropower plant? Just last week? I didn't see that. There it is. It's a giant turbines of a giant Nile hydropower. Yeah, and it's a really interesting story. Because basically, in Africa, I think Ethiopia is the second country with the least access to just light for its citizens, right. So 60% of people don't have it. So something like this will obviously bring a better standard of living for the women in the children. In the communities, obviously, education opportunities can increase, but the neighbors in Sudan, and Egypt are really anxious about, you know, the impact of water shortages, with the climate crisis, that's going to potentially impact them downstream. So this is one of those potential hotspots if the three countries have signed a treaty on managing the water. But so is this hydropower is a great thing for Ethiopia. But there's the potential sort of bigger issue around it. So that's when we're looking at. So there's a few other things. And the final thing on the environment is the IPCC report, the second out of three will be released on the 28th of February next week. And it's really going to be looking at how rising temperatures are going to affect everything, it's expected to have a much broader focus than just the science of what we can do about climate change. So that's one to keep an eye out. And if it comes out, I think it'll come out before our no show, but we'll talk about that one next week. So that's, that's an important thing that's coming up. So anything you guys want to comment on from an environment perspective or society? I'll take a look at that Ethiopia, one 17 million people on connected to the to electricity that is astonishing. When you think about the population of your country now 70 million people not connected to, to electricity. The other thing I can't quite understand is, is the the worry about the the lack of water coming downstream as a result of whacking a dam in which I get in one perspective. But once the things fall, then everything should be the same as what comes in goes out. I would have thought. So unless I'm missing something on how water works, again, manages depends on the rainfall, doesn't it? Yeah, to some extent. I suppose so. But if it's not, yeah, I guess so. But if it's whatever's coming in is going to go out the dams just going to stop it for a while. Well, if that were the case, the dam would never fill. So I mean, that's, that's the thing, they need to they need to restrict the flow to fulfill the dam master, restricted for the foot until it's full, but then after that, fair enough. So it does depend. Obviously, it's a you know, right, rainfall reduces with the climate emergency, they're expecting, like less rainfall, and then you, the higher up the river you are, the more you can show the water flow. And so we're seeing a lot of that. So in Northern Thailand, a lot of the a lot of the rivers are being impacted by dams in China. So the water is not coming through. So it's having a really big impact on some of the the water flows through the rivers, which is impacting the agriculture in the livelihoods of people. So there's a lot of a lot of impact. So it's a it's a control thing are different and that Yeah, and that's why the trade is so important between the countries so that, you know, it doesn't lead to war. But yeah, water management, especially when it's across borders is Yeah, it's a huge, huge look what happened in frozen to know, you guys haven't seen the movie, Okay, moving on. Guys is actually so this whole thing about water people haven't realized is the word rival actually comes from the Latin word reverse, which is actually a river. So it's about water as well and that they've figured that out a long time ago. Pharaoh salary comes from salt. Yeah, right. That makes sense. So it's all about water and salt because the Roman Romans were paid in in salt. Yeah, right. Well, they gotta ration of salt. They were paid another thing to know, but they got their salary. like, Alright, so let's wrap up. So, Lindsay, this is the bit where you get to tell what your tell us what you're watching, listening, reading, whatever that's distracting you away from the news. So, what am I reading? I read an amazing book called, wait a sec. I've just the book is outside, but let me quickly the dream manager by Matthew Kelly, brilliant little book, it's a fable. And it tells a story of his company had it was a cleaning company had a massive staff turnover problem and what they did to overcome that. And I'll summarize the book in a very short few words, they basically got everyone to identify what they dreamt for. And then they help them meet their dreams. So you know, really simple example a woman dreamt she wanted to own her own house, and they got to a point where she could own her own house. Brilliant story. And so simple, as most things are simple, and yet so clever and so complex at the same time. So if you get a chance to read it, grab it, you can get it online at you know, buy it on Kindle, or have it delivered. So, yeah, just give us the title again. The Dream manager, okay. by Matthew Kelly. All right, Joe. Jim, you guys distracted by anything? Comments? I just like to say for the for those in the comments, go pick up a book of this Billy bottom bomb and the great pool of potty Ville. It's how you change your diaper. Till you grow up. You might want to do that. Joe, what do you got? Well, I've been I've been I've done something for you. So you don't have to do it. Right. And that's logged on to Disney plus and watch the book of Boba Fett. It's it actually it actually has a pace of a book as a TV series, so I am not recommending it. I had to you know, once you once you start watching it, you kind of have to figure out how its how it's gonna go and how it's gonna end and all that. And that's some very amazing things in it, including some remarkable CGI, where Mark Hamill returns in his youthful form. And they almost managed to replicate his his performance when he was younger and not so good an actor very nicely done. It was saying it is not worth watching. I'm saying you don't need to watch it. No. Well, I mean, if you're if you're someone who's a real like Star Wars fan from from from start to finish, you have to compute every bit of it. It's part of the collection right is the it's the Lego piece you must pick up and keep as well. But I don't know, man. It's a piece of a piece of TV. I'm not sure it's a piece of YouTube comment. Yeah, I I did find that the preview looked pretty good. I quite I mean, it looked like visually interesting, but it was its pace was too slow is what you're saying? Yeah, it's a picture book on video. Okay, all right. Fair enough. Yeah, I think consider watching it. I got through a season and a bit of Picard before I couldn't. I couldn't go any any anymore. It was just too slow. And I'm obsessed with Star Trek as well. So courage to be disliked for those of you who are interested in just being yourself and not needing to be validated. Some of you read typing things in might be interested in that as well. Although seem to be pretty good at that. He wrote Kishi, me and for me taki Koga It's Japanese phenomenon that will show you how to free yourself change the courage to be disliked anyway. And it based on Adlerian psychology. And then it's done in a way of one person speaking to a mentor and having a conversation throughout the whole book, say I've picked up to read I haven't read it yet. But something I picked up to read to be interesting because I just like the I did psych at uni, so love to psych side of it. And I'm like this, this bit because a lot of lot of people in social media, it's all about validation, which is where trolls get their power from if they can invalidate they think that people are going to shrink away from being heard and sharing their voice and saying what needs to be said even if it's unpopular. So, so there so we started with shrinkage and we ended with shrinkage just reminded me Sorry, sorry, enrich one little thing. I gotta take back one thing I said last week. And it was just about this TV show that that I was checking out right. And I said, you know, like, Shonda Rhimes may be taking a swig a swing at at have a friendly rival, Aaron Sorkin by naming one of the characters in the in the show inventing Anna as Anna Sorek. And it just shows you how uneducated I am and how I hadn't read about the real life story of Ns Oregon who, who inspired the series, so it's not it's not a work of necessarily a work of complete fiction, as they say on the show. All of this is true except for the past we made up I like that actually Andrea and Joe I don't know Lindy Have you seen it? I finally watched don't look up. And, and I loved it. I just I loved it. I'd be interested to see what they don't look down as we'd say. But But yeah, I really enjoyed it. I just thought it was it was a barrel of laughs and the acting was wonderful little they it's one of those movies where I just wish I was in it. Because every character was just this wonderful, sort of complex character. I just, you know, Meryl Streep was wonderful. Jonah Hill was fantastic. And the lead role great. I just felt really nice. Even Leonardo's sort of nervous scientists to sort of Dr. Fauci esque, and a frogman to Yeah, you know, and then just just the whole character arcs in the whole story. I just thought were great. Really, really great. Even the the the the mobile phone, the Tim Cook sort of guy. I don't think it was supposed to be Tim Cook. But you know, the that fella, I just thought the whole thing was so cleverly done. Yeah. Yeah. No, it was great. Okay, so a couple of sophistical. Clinton, thank you for being here. And for the just for being lovely and nice. So two things that I've been watching. The first is downfall the case against Boeing. Last week, I was talking about the time I was working for an aerospace company in Australia, and Boeing was one of our customers, right? So for me, this story was kind of felt quite personal. Because the company that I used to work with because that Boeing then bought the company that I used to work with, but the and I've got friends still working there. To see the how much Boeing changed. Have you got anyone saying yet? No, not at all. miasto? Seriously, seriously, watch it. It's a very, very powerful story of, you know, a leader not stepping into, into into the truth and sort of being honest about what was going on, you know, that second plane in Ethiopia didn't need to go down and Boeing had been honest. It's about greed. It's about the stock market. It's, you know, it's all sorts of things. And then the other thing, let's go down for the case against Boeing. And I'll put it in the comments in case somebody is reading. Gold, doubtful, the case against Boeing. So it's on Netflix, but definitely, definitely watch it. And yeah, no, it's a very powerful show. And then the other one I'm watching is Formula One Drive to survive. Now, I'm not a Formula One person. But obviously making my husband happy. But I do, I do enjoy watching programs where, you know, it's the people are seeking excellence. So you know, there's 20 Formula One drivers in the world. So to become a formula, one driver in any team is already remarkable thing. But it's a fascinating insight. And there's enough of the racing, for it to be fascinating without being boring. So you know, I went to Formula One in Singapore a couple of times, it's not really something I seek, but the show the people behind it, not just the drivers, but all of the people that are involved in Formula One, absolutely fascinating. So there's like six seasons of it out. But yeah, even if you don't like Formula One, I definitely recommend watching it just from an excellence perspective. I'm not going to watch it. It's a it's a huge, successful marketing piece for f1 as well, because that's why they continue doing it because f1 has always been very reserved about publishing, you know, on a mainstream format, allowing the branding and all that and they've gone ahead with this one because it's so successful that they've developed so many new fans because of it. So Netflix, everybody. Wow. When you made me check out was when you said six seasons, that was like not just watch one and said you like it? Yeah, I'm gonna be breaking between the seasons for sure. I actually watched an episode at the dentist in the dentist chair. And it was really interesting. And he said, Okay, Lindsey, we're down and I kind of went, Oh, I'm crown the other one. Could you pull out this other tool? I can see myself in the dentistry or watching it going, can you please turn it off and just drill something else? Because but okay, I might, I might take you up into Jalan gender and just watch one episode because part of part of it part of this part of what we'd like to challenge people to do is to go beyond what you normally do, and, and broaden your horizons a little bit. There's a few people typing away furiously that probably need to broaden their horizons a little bit. So take the challenge. And, and go and do something like you know, positive. No, well, yeah. Drink some blush. Now. Obviously, The no show has made it right. We've attracted the trolls. So we've made it. We're looking for guests. Would you like to bring one of them on? Yeah, absolutely. I'd love to I'd love to see if they get trolled. Alright, so let's let's wrap it up for the week. Lindsey, thank you so much for joining us. Really appreciate it. You've been on one of our most more interesting ones in recent times. Stay safe out there, everyone. I'll get this up on the podcast. Tim and Joe, thanks for being here as always, and yeah, let's come back again next week and write anything you guys want to say before we end the broadcast. Yeah, go go and take some of Lindsay's tips and go out there and and see if you can have more interesting connections as you you go out there to meet people. I thought that was really valuable. Thank you, Lindsay. And it's nice to see you again. And and see you next week. Charleston and behind. Thanks for having me, guys. It was a hoot. Yeah, definitely. Alright. See you guys.